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wfz said:
disolitude said:
wfz said:
Aside from what was already stated:

Steam exists on an open platform and doesn't have a monopoly on the market it supplies games to.

I don't know about that... Both of those should have an astreix next to them.


What do you mean? Steam is not the only providor in the PC space, and it's possible for other competitors to rise. On the Xbone, there is no possible alternative to Microsoft. They hold the system with an iron grip. "Monopoly" was the incorrect word to use, I suppose, since they kinda do own a great deal of the space. What I meant was they cannot stop other platforms from thriving (GOG, Origin, etc.).

And how is PC not an open platform?


Its pretty much any content device like your Iphone, Android, or PS system.  They all pretty much dictate what can and cannot be done to their system.  Not sure that has any more bearing on the thread.

Anyway, I wonder if the EU ruling on retail and digital games is the reason MS will even have a sell options for their games.



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wfz said:
disolitude said:
wfz said:
Aside from what was already stated:

Steam exists on an open platform and doesn't have a monopoly on the market it supplies games to.

I don't know about that... Both of those should have an astreix next to them.


What do you mean? Steam is not the only providor in the PC space, and it's possible for other competitors to rise. On the Xbone, there is no possible alternative to Microsoft. They hold the system with an iron grip. "Monopoly" was the incorrect word to use, I suppose, since they kinda do own a great deal of the space. What I meant was they cannot stop other platforms from thriving (GOG, Origin, etc.).

And how is PC not an open platform?

Valve provides a gaming platform and an ecosystem, called Steam.

Microsoft provides a gaming platform and ecosystem, called Xbox.

They are open, or closed in exact same manner, its jsut that microsoft decided to create dedicated harware for their platform...Also they both have competitors in Origin and Playstation  

Microsoft does most likely charge higher licensing fees on the Xbox than Steam but there is very little difference between the two.



If Steam's servers go down, I can still use my PC.



Steam is basically a stricter version of X1. Ironically



Aielyn said:
If Steam's servers go down, I can still use my PC.


If the X1 goes down you can still use your X1.  You just cannot use it for games ;)

Anyway, I just read the official news from MS on the whole DRM issue and it actually not as bad as I thought.  The constant Online check is something of a pain which I wonder if they will keep the 24 hour part and every one hour if you are not playing on your main console.  Being able to share your game to 10 people in your family sounds great as any person within your family can play on any other device even if its not in their home.

Trading and selling is up to the publishers as most stuff now and there is no fee from MS.  The publishers can put a charge and they can decide the fee which will be interesting how the industry go with that one.



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I wonder exactly what Sony DRM is. Yes, I am sorry about bringing this up but I have to ask the question.

If MS DRM is decided by the publishers and we have a decent post on what those parts are what is Sony solution. Do Sony has something in place to give publishers the same advantage like the X1 or do the publishers have to implement their own. Sony has still not explained how DRM is decided by the publishers and what measures they have within their console to enforce DRM. I still feel Sony has played the game to long and need to come clean with everything so we all can see how the landscape will fare.



Its not. But that was one of the things why consoles were simpler. Xbox one has all the disadvantages of steam but it has not the strengths of a PC (Cheaper games, graphics,mods free online, Backwardscompatibility) The Xbox ones advantages are now just interface and exclusives. Thats it.



I only saw great things coming out of their explanation. But of course PS fans will still try to spin it and make it look like it's horrible. And the comparison with Steam is ridiculous. Obviously MS is setting up the new standards. There's just a few things they can tweak to make it perfect. Either way, I'm very satisfied by their response to how DRM is going to work.



Machiavellian said:
Aielyn said:
If Steam's servers go down, I can still use my PC.


If the X1 goes down you can still use your X1.  You just cannot use it for games ;)

Are you sure? Have they confirmed that other XBO functionality will remain? For all you know, it might even lock out TV "functionality".



Soonerman said:
I only saw great things coming out of their explanation. But of course PS fans will still try to spin it and make it look like it's horrible. And the comparison with Steam is ridiculous. Obviously MS is setting up the new standards. There's just a few things they can tweak to make it perfect. Either way, I'm very satisfied by their response to how DRM is going to work.

Why you blaming the PDF (Playstation defense force). I am supporting Xbone all i can. I think they should just go for the drm and other new practices if they think they can make more money that way. Power to them. Let the market decide and let's avoid pointing fingers as lot of current 360 owners seem more pissed. 

OT: PC market was revitalized by steam. Lot of gamers have vast amount of respect for the platform and what it offers. Infact i prefer having the drm of steam rather than none at all. Plus the brilliant sales that it offers. For the price of two retail console games one can load up enough relatively new games to play for the entire year. Also intiatives like "workshop" are just icing on cake along with Gaben meme's.