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Chandler on 29 May 2013

Terrible news. By this time next year, PS4 will probably be mandatory to get anything worthwile out of the Vita.



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Sal.Paradise on 29 May 2013

Great news, can't wait to stream some PS4 games in bed



Xenostar on 29 May 2013
sergiodaly said:
NEET said:
huiii said:
NEET said:
Didn't think Sony would be stupid enough to do this looks like I might have been wrong.


Why stupid? It's a built in hardwarefeature. I don't think it's gonna cuase devs all that much trouble to do it.

Adding trophies or something is probably more work than this.

Because it adds to the cost of developing games anything that adds cost is another reason not develop for that console, you want good will with people making games that will sell your console not piss them off.

as far as we know... sony only requires a vita control scheme (because Vita don't have L2 R2) in addition to the normal game submission for release in the platform. until we know more, your developing cost argument is BS.

now... even if that does cost some kind of money to implement. lets do math... lets say, 3rd party dev has a game idea, 20millions put that idea into game form in PC, 1 million to port to XB and 1.1 (added 0.1 because of vita just to make you happy) to port to PS4. lets say xb one and ps4 have the same install base of 5 million consoles. you talk like is worth ignoring half the potential costumers just because the small addition to dev costs. you still think you are right? (all these numbers are made up but still are a very well possible scenario so don't give me that argument)

also MS has kinect and Wii U has that controller, sure they do not mandate (we still do not know nothing about MS is this matter), but aren't those in every console? will or will not be pushed to be used by devs? does those add cost to implement? is this the same as previous generations with proprietary peripherals? all yes answers and obvious no answer to the question above is the reasonable thing to think...

As i say ive done it for PSP and PS3, its a days work tops. Even then youd have to be slow, just wasnt used on PS3 because it took over a 1 SPU to do it, which devs didnt want. 



KingofTrolls on 29 May 2013

Great news !



Munkeh111 on 29 May 2013
Lafiel said:
Munkeh111 said:
Lafiel said:
Munkeh111 said:

This is quite good news, although expected. There are details to be worked out, such as can I play anywhere in the world or just in my house?

I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work over internet, with some more input lag ofcourse.

Well lag is the problem

depends on the genre you are playing

I've tried some demos over gaikai when it was still up and there wasn't much problems with playing Alen Wake or Dirt 2 that way, although these are more input lag sensitive genres. Turn based games ofcourse are the best case scenario though.

Well I am sure they will sort it out



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sergiodaly on 29 May 2013
Chandler said:
Terrible news. By this time next year, PS4 will probably be mandatory to get anything worthwile out of the Vita.

why? its not like vita just works around the PS4... stream from PS4 will be great... but not every single time you want to play vita you will turn on the PS4. And some games, are just best suited for handhelds, they will not release a (more expensive) PS4 version for you to play it in the vita trough remote.
if this really help to move HW, more reasons to develop vita games... i can't see a bad thing here...

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MANUELF on 29 May 2013
Xenostar said:
MANUELF said:
The devs cant even make some wiiu games offer off tv play and they want to force a different console as a controller? xD The vita also has 2 button less compared to the dualshock 3


But it has a rear touch pad so can easily cope 

Maybe Im alone in this but I dont believe that would be a good substitute



Chark on 29 May 2013

Streaming to Vita will be no hassle at all to devs. L2/R2 are on the Vita's back touchpad, something that is calibrated by the Vita and therefor doesn't require any control changes. The Vita also has a front camera, which may work for PSEye related functions.

This is an amazing thing for both the PS4 and the Vita. Vita will not suffer as games will still come out for it and people will still buy those games. I have a PS3, but I play my Vita at home quite a bit. Not everyone has a constant internet connection outside the home, or a fast enough internet/ping rate in order to fluidly remote play.

This should be seen as an attractive feature that will increase the sales of both consoles.



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Xenostar on 29 May 2013
MANUELF said:
Xenostar said:
MANUELF said:
The devs cant even make some wiiu games offer off tv play and they want to force a different console as a controller? xD The vita also has 2 button less compared to the dualshock 3


But it has a rear touch pad so can easily cope 

Maybe Im alone in this but I dont believe that would be a good substitute


I think your right it depends on the game tho, but sure some games a touch pad aint going to feel like a trigger in those cases they will hopefully remap the keys to make more sence. 



Dgc1808 on 29 May 2013
eFKac said:

Interesting that even though the PS4 eye should be bundled DF thinks that not many games will support it, I would guess the case should be the opposite since it comes with every system, otherwise it would be a total waste of resources from Sony, we'll see how it goes.

Seems like I will have to buy the Vita alongside the PS4 this holiday season, hopefully some special occasions. will be in place.


In DF's defense... Sixaxis motion sensing is technically a bundled feature.



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