Why? Because it's losing to the Wii and Nintendo gave up on that system years ago.

Because it's losing to the Vita and Sony gave up on that system years ago.

Because when you want a console to fail, it doesn't matter what kind of precedent exists, the system is bound to failure.

That's why we're on vgchartz, remember? To be biased and spurt out nonsense. You forgot?

Example argument I've been given:

• It's not a Nintendo handheld so the 3DS rebound doesn't apply. No reason given, just some made-up rule.

I like where this thread is headed already.

Wishful thinking on their part.

Given the Wii U's current library, it is ridiculously overpriced. A mini game collection and a game that has similar versions on the much cheaper 3DS, DS and Wii consoles is not nearly enough to justify that price.


Wii Sports/Fit/Play, Mario Kart, 3D Mario, Super Smash Bros., The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Pikmin, Mario Party and the likes should turn things around eventually.

What happened to the 3DS will happen to the Wii U if first party software comes around this holiday just like 3DS first party software came around last holiday

it wont fail... because nintendo is delicious :P

The 3DS is up against the Vita. Tablets too, but pretty much has a monopoly right now on the dedicated handheld market.

The WiiU is up against 2 years of neglect of the Wii, the Xbone in america-the strongest console market, the PS4 and the PC.

And it has no games, the 3rd parties aren't supporting it because of the DRM issue.

The WiiU is a good concept with a horrible execution so far. The 3DS is a decent concept with everyone else floundering so it was like "huh I guess I'm ok after all"

I say wait till the games come out 1st. Then we can discuss stuff. But I think Nintendo made the WiiU solely to ride out the upcoming gen because they believe that the Western industry is going to crash to an extent.

Xbone isn't helping either.

Because what you're calling "great choices," I call necessary choices. Without the price drop in 2011 and the re-model in 2012, the system wouldn't have taken off. Games helped, certainly, but it was those two business decisions that carried the day, and Nintendo paid a hefty toll for that price drop.

Yet at this point, Nintendo is both unable and unwilling to do the same things. They CANNOT drop the price without losing face, even if they could possibly afford to absorb the losses involved in that decision. And there are no obvious or well-worn criticisms of the console itself to be fixed in a re-model. Without a shift in the hardware element, they are not going to be able to maintain sales long-term, certainly not enough to reach their sales targets unless those change.

As for why the Vita is still in the game, it's because Sony is stubborn, and they've committed their prestige to it. In essence, they're in the same position Nintendo will be in with the Wii U if they don't turn things around or lower their expectations.

I don't think it will fail, I'm just pretty bitter about the whole situation. There really should be a game coming out before August. I'm angry that Pikmin 3 was delayed when it was supposed to launch a while ago. I think it will do fine, but Nintendo won't be getting my money at launch ever again.