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Jega said:
forevercloud3000 said:
platformmaster918 said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Jega said:
forevercloud3000 said:
Jega said:
Laurel Aitken said:
We aren't.


Since you are speaking for everyone, then why all the negative.

If you aren't afraid then why all the negative.

If someone isn't afraid they just keep doing their thing and talk about their thing.

I see more negative talk about Xbox One, than a talk about the PS4.

there is mostly negative things said about the Xbox One because from what they just have shown....... Gamers do not want what they are selling.
 Its really not PS Nation or any one side, its most people who care are not satisfied with XBO. If anything there are a few ppl either on MS's payroll or just wearing their tinted glasses trying to glaze over everything and say "oh its not that bad". No kid, it IS that bad. Basically every negative rumor about XBO.......became a reality. And all their sidways mouth talking couldn't hide this fact. It does require online connection(not continuous but on some interval) and it DOES block used games. This is the issue at hand. 

Personally, I am very curious to see how it performs. MS is indeed a marketing machine and they could sell your own heart back to you. Will the lemmings still come? MS has proven to me whole heartedly that they never cared for games, just the money and their precious OS.  We already have a Government GPS locator permenantly strapped to our hands, now we are setting up our own spy cameras IN OUR HOMES. Ri-donculous. This also reminds me a lot of google, who has been taking our information for a decade now, selling it to ad companies. MS will do the same. They will read what color shirt you are wearing, styles, what kind of things pop up in your discussion, etc. Next thing you know....while watching your Football through XBO you will get commercials for similar things. Mark my words....

As a gamer tho, if MS's complete abandonment of hardcore games for 360 in the last 2 years, general tunnel vision towards exclusive DLC rather than full games, substandard hardware that breaks, etc doesn't deter you from wanting the next box, than the recent news probably just rolls off your back as well. :/

So Sony and Nintendo and all those other companies that provide games on their platform aren't in it for the money?

Once again I say it is a business.

Just because you want to make money while you do it, doesn't mean its not a passion. Sony and Nintendo both have a passion for games. Its not always about the money for them but quite often about giving gamers exactly what they wanted in their fav franchise and for Sony it is a lot about trying new things and pushing the envelope. Games like Journey are not raking in huge COD amounts of money, but Sony publishes them anyway. If they turn out to be a financial success that is icing on the cake.

MS....has never shown this level of passion, and every action they take is simply a calculated move on how to get the most amount of money out of the consumer. They give what is required to achieve success, nothing more, and when they have drained one group dry they move on to the next. 360's lifespan in a nutshell. Will also be Xbox One's too. The Cake is most assuredly a lie....

Sony and Nintendo try to get money by offering exclusive experiences that they fund which are normally an awesome new experience (Beyond, LoU, Uncharted, Resistance, Killzone, LBP, Infamous, Journey, Heavy Rain, Puppeteer, Unfinished Swan, and Guacamele all started this gen) or an amazing extension and evolution or refinement and improvement on an existing one (GoW, 3D Mario, Zelda, Ratchet until A4O, Sly, SSB, DKCR, GT, Mario Kart).  I trust them to give me a steady stream of first party IP.  Nintendo has the edge in local MP which I love and their classic gameplay focus but Sony has some games which are more classic and of course some great cinematic experiences too.  MS hasn't earned this trust as they seem to sell on having more marketing, undercutting the competition while not mentioning fees like proprietary HDDs and Live fees, having more apps that I can get elsewhere (not on consoles but I never exactly wanted ESPN highlights there and I don't pay for HBO), and recycling the same franchises 4 times a gen that they had last gen (Nintendo repeats but each 3D Mario has innovated more than the last 3 Gears combined and they normally only have 1 a gen with 2 this gen being their new record).  I am a SP and local MP kinda guy so these companies are for me.


I have always preferred single player experiences as well, because they are the games that you can play forever. What will any given COD game mean 7yrs from now? nothing, because the servers will be shut down and no one plays them for SP.

If I am afraid of anything, it is that the more success MS has in the "gaming industry", the more stagnated and on the verge of decline it will become. They DONT CARE ABOUT GAMES! Plain and simple. They only cared about mind share/money flow. Look at 360. They had the year head start and a few really good AAA exclusives at the very beginning, which just so happen to coincide with Sony troubles of getting any of their big games finished in a timely manner. After seeing some good gains of mindshare from Sony mid gen.....they just stopped. They felt they no longer needed to bring in new IPs or try harder than just making sequels.

The fanbase they obtained were far to invested at this point in Xbox live and their friends list to jump ship, even tho Sony caught up and surpassed 360 when it came to games. When asked why most kept a 360, I frequently heard "because my friends have that". Even after PSN service and functionality became on par with Live, still not enough. MS knows this so they didn't feel the need to funnel anymore money into people they had already courted. Then came along Kinect, as now MS had complete focus on the casuals who were gonna bring them in more money. Don't get me wrong, Sony did it too with Move....but at least they never once forgot the Hardcore. Well come this gen it will be a clean slate mostly so it is most definitely time to jump off that sinking MS ship.

Fact of the matter is, most people only purchase one console at the start of a gen, and will not even look at another till close to the gen's end when it is dirt cheap. Its very important that Sony snatch up everyone at the start of this gen by having their AAA exclusives ready for everyone to see. Gamers can't afford for MS to get lucky with a weak Sony, and good timing again. If you wanna support GAMES, and not Anti-Consumer tactics that are just there to bleed you dry and pump u full of advertisements then skip Xbox One. Go PS4/PC/WiiU.

I think Microsoft has moved on.

And I think sony has too. Please give me a list of ps3 exclusives coming out in 2013.

I am sorry, but i just couldn't bear watching you assume that Sony has abandoned the PS3's owners with nothing but multiplats from now on. Please, the next time you try to be smart (and quite a bit condescending) about something, please do a basic research so that what you assumed doesn't bite you in the ass. Seriously. Just an advice.
Observe: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/03/07/the-20-playstation-3-exclusives-of-2013

I hope you don't dismiss this just because its from ign (ign seems to get some hate from vgc).

And add GT6 to that list as when the list was made it was still only rumours about it being in the PS3

And now you made me break my vow about not posting :P (actually im just lazy)...

Note: If i dont answer to an eventual response, its not me ignoring you, its just that its almost 1AM here and i have class tomorrow.



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Jega said:
forevercloud3000 said:


I have always preferred single player experiences as well, because they are the games that you can play forever. What will any given COD game mean 7yrs from now? nothing, because the servers will be shut down and no one plays them for SP.

If I am afraid of anything, it is that the more success MS has in the "gaming industry", the more stagnated and on the verge of decline it will become. They DONT CARE ABOUT GAMES! Plain and simple. They only cared about mind share/money flow. Look at 360. They had the year head start and a few really good AAA exclusives at the very beginning, which just so happen to coincide with Sony troubles of getting any of their big games finished in a timely manner. After seeing some good gains of mindshare from Sony mid gen.....they just stopped. They felt they no longer needed to bring in new IPs or try harder than just making sequels.

The fanbase they obtained were far to invested at this point in Xbox live and their friends list to jump ship, even tho Sony caught up and surpassed 360 when it came to games. When asked why most kept a 360, I frequently heard "because my friends have that". Even after PSN service and functionality became on par with Live, still not enough. MS knows this so they didn't feel the need to funnel anymore money into people they had already courted. Then came along Kinect, as now MS had complete focus on the casuals who were gonna bring them in more money. Don't get me wrong, Sony did it too with Move....but at least they never once forgot the Hardcore. Well come this gen it will be a clean slate mostly so it is most definitely time to jump off that sinking MS ship.

Fact of the matter is, most people only purchase one console at the start of a gen, and will not even look at another till close to the gen's end when it is dirt cheap. Its very important that Sony snatch up everyone at the start of this gen by having their AAA exclusives ready for everyone to see. Gamers can't afford for MS to get lucky with a weak Sony, and good timing again. If you wanna support GAMES, and not Anti-Consumer tactics that are just there to bleed you dry and pump u full of advertisements then skip Xbox One. Go PS4/PC/WiiU.

I think Microsoft has moved on.

And I think sony has too. Please give me a list of ps3 exclusives coming out in 2013.


Its not that Sony moved on like MS. Its more that you just want Sony to move on like MS ;). Why? i wont say because i just got banned recently for pointing it out in another thread

 

Edit: dont reply back to this because there are too many people you might already need to reply to in here



pezus said:
"All I see is negative, negative, negative about the Xbox One."

I thought so, too


Same here...

The author is just a little mad about that things.



Jega said:

I think Microsoft has moved on.

And I think sony has too. Please give me a list of ps3 exclusives coming out in 2013.

I really think your just trolling right now but I guess ill make you laugh some more for entertainment. The Last of Us, Tales of Xillia, Drakenguard 3, Beyond Two Souls, Dragons Crown, Dust 514, Gran turismo 6, MLB 13 The Show, Ni No Kuni (already came out but you said 2013,) God of War ascension, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD remix, Final Fantasy X & X-2 Remake, RAIN, Until Dawn.

And I dont know about you Jega, but when I turn on my consoles it is for GAMES, and not tv or any of that other stuff MS is forcing down consumers throats. If you really think consoles are for applications and tv and music and all that other stuff, then fine. I dont know if you are really a gamer then if that is what you are buying a console for. I already have a cable box and an Iphone for music, so why would I want another box with the same functions? The games for XBO could be good, but I do not trust MS. They said they would have new IP's but in the back of my head, I bet they are games for the casuals, we will see eventually at e3 however. 



 

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Jega said:

I think Microsoft has moved on.

And I think sony has too. Please give me a list of ps3 exclusives coming out in 2013.


Thats Easy...

 

  • Puppeteer
  • Gran Turismo 6
  • The Last of Us
  • Beyond:Two Souls
  • God of War: Ascension(Released)
  • Sly 4(Released)
  • Tales of Xillia
  • NiNoKuni:Wrath of the White Witch (Released)
  • Disgaea D2
  • Dragon's Crown
  • Guacamelee (Released)
  • MLB 13:The Show (Released)
  • Rain
  • Until Dawn
14 Exclusives coming this year, in the PS3's Twilight years no less. And many of these are no slouches. GT is the worlds most popular and coveted racing sim. The Last of Us is from Naughty Dog following a perfect track record of AAA titles only rivaled by studios like R* or Bungie. Beyond is follow up from David Cage (Heavy Rain, Indigo Prophecy fame). NiNoKuni is celebrated as a return to old school form with a new age twist as far as JRPGs go. And look at the list, so very varied. Sports(MLB), PSN Titles (Rain, Guacamelee), Action(TLOU,GOW:A), Platforming (Sly 4, Puppeteer), JRPGs(Tales of X, NiNoKuni,Disgaea D2), Racing(GT6), Adventure (Beyond) and Move Games (Until Dawn)
This is just PS3, when Sony has already promised to start PS4 off with a bang (Knack, Killzone SF, Infamous SS, Drive Club, The Witness, etc) and they also have Vita stuff (KZ Mercs, Freedom Wars, AC Game,TearAway, Soul Sacrifice, Jacob Jones, etc). All in all, Sony is doing big and great things in gaming. No one else is pumping out so many games like them, period (and yes that includes Nintendo).
Sony doesn't abandon their devices and their new mantra is they no longer see them as singular entites. Sony is now only looking at the over head "Playstation" family, not PS2, PS3, PS4, Vita seperate. It makes sense. Why dwell on what console gamers are buying your stuff on when they all belong to you? As long as they are buying for ANY of your platforms you are good. All PS consoles/handhelds are profitable from jump at the moment and a game sold on any is money in the bank. This is also why they no longer seperate PS2/PS3 and PSP/Vita sales in their financial reports.
Edit: Oh crap forgot Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD and Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD collections. I am going to be beyond broke this year .... -_-'

 



      

      

      

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Horrorfest said:
Nice troll. I honestly think Microsoft is done. This gen will probably be their last and it will be back to Sony vs Nintendo.

Why would this be their last gen? The worst case scenario is they lose a few billion and Sony wins another gen. I don't anticipate Xbox One achieving 360 sales, but even 40 million units sold would be respectiable. That would be respectable for Wii U as well.

MS has far more money than Sony and Nintendo. They can afford to fuck up.



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