Well... to be fair. A partnership where you go out of your way to do stuff for everybody EXCEPT your partner IS pretty unprecedented. (Well outside of a marriage anyway.)
Well... to be fair. A partnership where you go out of your way to do stuff for everybody EXCEPT your partner IS pretty unprecedented. (Well outside of a marriage anyway.)
Mr Khan said:
Occam's Razor suggests that EA would at least be offering the same token support they've offered Nintendo consoles from the beginning, as the simplest outcome would be maintanence of the status quo; poor support, but support. That EA has changed that suggests that something extraordinary occurred. Which there is copious evidence for outside the realm of sales. |
That'd be the case if EA regarded the Wii U as having the same audience as previous Nintendo consoles. Then again we have to consider how gaming really exploded this generation and therefore their tolerance for support may be tighter i.e. Anything that sells less than X is not worth our time.
Honestly, I think it's a case of poor sales mixed with the PS4/720 on the horizon which, in terms of power, will eclipse the Wii U, and therefore sales may not increase. Having to scale back games from 2+Tflops to ~500 Tflops may be time better spent polishing the PS4/720 versions. The fact that UE4 isn't coming to the Wii U suggests that programming for it may be a complete ball ache and therefore, not cost effective.
Mr Khan said: Not everyone, just this. I would admit that those who suggest 3rd parties avoid Nintendo (a position i disagree with) may have some merit to their arguments, but this, this thing with EA, this is different. This is maliciousness, this is bullying, this is blatantly obvious, and no-one has any good reason to be on EA's side in this. It's like SOPA. There are some things that are just so egregious that one side has absolutely no leg to stand on whatsoever. |
I think if EA thought they were able to make a quick buck on the Wii U they would.
All i can say is we have no idea what is actually happening and nothing is ever black or white... it might be a struggle for power or it might not.
Personally i found nothing offensive (or banworthy) in dodeces post (but hey i have never actually read the rules so i might be wrong). I probably only reacted to you becase i was a little miffed that this gets a pass and he gets banned (but again i don't really know the rules). So peace :P.
huiii said:
I think if EA thought they were able to make a quick buck on the Wii U they would. All i can say is we have no idea what is actually happening and nothing is ever black of white... it might be a struggle for power or it might not.
Personally i found nothing offensive (or banworthy) in dodeces post (but hey i have never actually read the rules so i might be wrong). I probably only reacted to you becase i was a little miffed that this gets a pass and he gets banned (but again i don't really know the rules). So peace :P. |
The report button is there to solve those mysteries (in part).
First i've seen that post...
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Mr Khan said: The report button is there to solve those mysteries (in part). First i've seen that post... |
I did report it.
huiii said:
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Huh. I didn't see it in there.
Certainly don't see why it wasn't acted upon earlier. That guy's now been banned 3 times in the past 6 weeks for trolling sony fans...
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Mr Khan said:
Huh. I didn't see it in there. Certainly don't see why it wasn't acted upon earlier. That guy's now been banned 3 times in the past 6 weeks for trolling sony fans... |
Well no more complaints from me then :)
Mr Khan said: Not everyone, just this. I would admit that those who suggest 3rd parties avoid Nintendo (a position i disagree with) may have some merit to their arguments, but this, this thing with EA, this is different. This is maliciousness, this is bullying, this is blatantly obvious, and no-one has any good reason to be on EA's side in this. It's like SOPA. There are some things that are just so egregious that one side has absolutely no leg to stand on whatsoever. |
We're talking about a company here, not some playground bully. There actions are motivated by money, a tale as old as time, not by some bizarre emotional conspiracy which has literally no evidence whatsoever.
EA wants to make money. If the Wii U was going to make them money, they wouldn't turn it down. It's as simple as that.
Mr Khan said: Not everyone, just this. I would admit that those who suggest 3rd parties avoid Nintendo (a position i disagree with) may have some merit to their arguments, but this, this thing with EA, this is different. This is maliciousness, this is bullying, this is blatantly obvious, and no-one has any good reason to be on EA's side in this. It's like SOPA. There are some things that are just so egregious that one side has absolutely no leg to stand on whatsoever. |
You treat Nintendo like an omniscient, omnipitant, infallible god Kahn. Quotes on EA's perspective.
“Nintendo was operating with near monopoly power,” Gordon says. “They had like a 95 percent share of the console business, and they had earned it because they took a huge risk. If a publisher wanted to get in bed with the NES, they had to fly to Japan, state its case for a development system, and if Nintendo deemed it worthy, there was only one deal on the table. Nintendo would sell the company a dev kit for what Gordon calls “a ridiculous price,” and after a game was finished the publisher had to send it to Nintendo, which would ultimately decide whether our not it would be manufactured.”
Bing Gordon Former Cheif creative Officer of EA
“Wait, we spend all this time and we build a game but we don’t know if we can bring it to market?,”
‘That’s right, and if we decide to bring it to market, we manufacture it and we’ll tell you how many we’ll build. You pay us half the cost, and then we manufacture it when we feel like it. When it’s done in Japan, you pay the second half of the cost, and we release it and you figure out how you want to ship it.”
“EA would be allowed to manufacture its own Genesis cartridges, could make as many games as it wanted, and received a more favorable royalty rate. The next day at CES there was a wall of 16-bit Electronic Arts titles running on the Sega Genesis.”
“We’re pretty strongly in the camp that low manufacturing cost in media is important to the overall growth of interactive entertainment,” Gordon said. “I doubt we’ll ever ship as many products for the Nintendo 64 in any year as we do on the PC or the Sony PlayStation.”
“One of the explanations we have is that there’s a lot of double ownership. So people having a Wii and a 360 and/or PS3. They’re really playing different types of games on those two machines, and historically up to now we assume those people will have played the more mature content on the more high-tech machine. Dead Space: Extraction is going to be a very nice test of that hypothesis, because we’re really building a game where the Wii version is very different to the Dead Space game on 360 and PS3, and we’ll actually see whether we can reach more people with a) a great game and b) interesting content. If that’s not going to work, then obviously the whole proposal from our point of view at least of more mature games on the Wii just does not work.” – Dr Jens Uwe Intat, European VP at Electronic Arts
There is plenty more if your willing to look at a side other than the infallible Nintendo here.
http://www.notenoughshaders.com/2013/03/25/the-sexual-history-between-nintendo-and-electronic-arts/