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Lawlight on 16 May 2013
DieAppleDie said:
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In other words, it was a fad which died very quickly.

If you consider 3-4 years to be "quick", then sure.

 

Fairly quick when you consider the longevity of PS consoles.

and a pretty normal lifespan for a nintendo home console


None of the other Nintendo systems rose so high though. And wow, that's a really short lifespan. Maybe Nintendo should stop making consoles and focus on handhelds.

the drop was fast true, but they always have a 5 year life span for consoles. its their bussines strategy, and it worked out perfectly with the Wii. yeah yeah nintendo should stop making consoles, nintendo should stop making hardware and go third party, heard all of it before. how about they just quit the gaming indusrty and go into the home cleaning industry? i mean they are just making a lot of money with video games. why the hell should they continue?


I don't think a big sales drop 2 years before your next system launches is a marketing strategy.

And why would they quit the industry? Their handhelds sell well. It's only their consoles that don't (unless they can fluke it like with the WiiU).

Actually it's only really the GameCube (and the N64 to a lesser extent) which sold relatively poorly, but still made Nintendo plenty of profit. 

The N64 sold 33M. Yeah, that's bad for a console. At 40M, I don't think the NES did great either but that was before the PS came out and brought gaming out of the "toy" category.

Well yeah, exactly. Playstation had its time in the spotlight in the PS1/PS2 era, and it just decimated the competition (so Sega, Microsoft and Nintendo all looked to be doing poorly in comparison), but when you compare the other Nintendo consoles, you see that they're always the best selling console, before the Sony era that is. So you can only judge success on how you do relatively to other people. So doing 70mil this gen would be considered "poor", but doing that a decade ago would be a great success. 

As such, only the Gamecube underperformed, and the N64 was right on the verge.


Well, if you want to compare within gens, the N64 sold less than 30% of what the PS sold so it's safe to say it underperformed.

The Wii did well thanks to the casuals (it'll still finish 2nd this gen though).



Wii did cause of casuals and PS and PS2 not youre daydreaming at best my friend


What casual PS or PS2 games sold as highly as WiiFit, Wii Sports, Wii Music, Wii Play, Just Dance, etc?



excuse me? NFS, Maddens, FIFAs, Tony Hawks, Guitar hero, Sims, all casual friendly all top sellers in Sony consoles


Not even close to being the top sellers on the PS2. And FIFA and NFS are far from being games that soccer moms and senior citizens can play.



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DieAppleDie on 16 May 2013
Lawlight said:
DieAppleDie said:
Lawlight said:
DieAppleDie said:
Lawlight said:
Conegamer said:
Lawlight said:
Conegamer said:
Lawlight said:
bananaking21 said:
Lawlight said:
bananaking21 said:
Lawlight said:
Conegamer said:
Lawlight said:


In other words, it was a fad which died very quickly.

If you consider 3-4 years to be "quick", then sure.

 

Fairly quick when you consider the longevity of PS consoles.

and a pretty normal lifespan for a nintendo home console


None of the other Nintendo systems rose so high though. And wow, that's a really short lifespan. Maybe Nintendo should stop making consoles and focus on handhelds.

the drop was fast true, but they always have a 5 year life span for consoles. its their bussines strategy, and it worked out perfectly with the Wii. yeah yeah nintendo should stop making consoles, nintendo should stop making hardware and go third party, heard all of it before. how about they just quit the gaming indusrty and go into the home cleaning industry? i mean they are just making a lot of money with video games. why the hell should they continue?


I don't think a big sales drop 2 years before your next system launches is a marketing strategy.

And why would they quit the industry? Their handhelds sell well. It's only their consoles that don't (unless they can fluke it like with the WiiU).

Actually it's only really the GameCube (and the N64 to a lesser extent) which sold relatively poorly, but still made Nintendo plenty of profit. 

The N64 sold 33M. Yeah, that's bad for a console. At 40M, I don't think the NES did great either but that was before the PS came out and brought gaming out of the "toy" category.

Well yeah, exactly. Playstation had its time in the spotlight in the PS1/PS2 era, and it just decimated the competition (so Sega, Microsoft and Nintendo all looked to be doing poorly in comparison), but when you compare the other Nintendo consoles, you see that they're always the best selling console, before the Sony era that is. So you can only judge success on how you do relatively to other people. So doing 70mil this gen would be considered "poor", but doing that a decade ago would be a great success. 

As such, only the Gamecube underperformed, and the N64 was right on the verge.


Well, if you want to compare within gens, the N64 sold less than 30% of what the PS sold so it's safe to say it underperformed.

The Wii did well thanks to the casuals (it'll still finish 2nd this gen though).



Wii did cause of casuals and PS and PS2 not youre daydreaming at best my friend


What casual PS or PS2 games sold as highly as WiiFit, Wii Sports, Wii Music, Wii Play, Just Dance, etc?



excuse me? NFS, Maddens, FIFAs, Tony Hawks, Guitar hero, Sims, all casual friendly all top sellers in Sony consoles


Not even close to being the top sellers on the PS2. And FIFA and NFS are far from being games that soccer moms and senior citizens can play.



look, you can live in denial all you want, but half of the top50 selling games for PS2 are either casual or license based games or both at the same time



Barozi on 16 May 2013

next person to quote the above post without deleting some of the quote elements is getting a warning or a ban respectively.



Lawlight on 16 May 2013

Lol, the facts are right there for everyone to see. The best selling PS2 games are GT, GTA, FF, MGS, KH and GoW. Gotta love the anti-Sony ignorance.



Conegamer on 16 May 2013
Lawlight said:
Lol, the facts are right there for everyone to see. The best selling PS2 games are GT, GTA, FF, MGS, KH and GoW. Gotta love the anti-Sony ignorance.

I really don't think anyone was denying that. 



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

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Lawlight on 16 May 2013
Conegamer said:
Lawlight said:
Lol, the facts are right there for everyone to see. The best selling PS2 games are GT, GTA, FF, MGS, KH and GoW. Gotta love the anti-Sony ignorance.

I really don't think anyone was denying that. 

The other guy was. According to him, the best selling games were casual games.



the_dengle on 16 May 2013
Lawlight said:


You croppped nothing. The best selling games on the PS2 were core games. Not so on the Wii. PS2 owes a large amount of its market dominance to DVD... in its first year. In the 2nd year, they destroyed with:

GT3: A-Spec

GTA 3

MGS2

FFX

Jak & Daxter

TM: Black

Right, remind me again why GTA isn't considered a casual game? It was the most popular thing around among my elementary & middle school classmates. You know, 10-to-12-year-olds?

The casual-core argument is stupid and I will not indulge it any further in this thread. As if one console's success is more "legitimate" because its best-selling titles appealed to a different market from another successful console's.



Dr.JimmyRustles on 16 May 2013

Core = Call of duty fanbase

Casuals = real core

Deal with it nerds.



zorg1000 on 16 May 2013
the_dengle said:
Lawlight said:


You croppped nothing. The best selling games on the PS2 were core games. Not so on the Wii. PS2 owes a large amount of its market dominance to DVD... in its first year. In the 2nd year, they destroyed with:

GT3: A-Spec

GTA 3

MGS2

FFX

Jak & Daxter

TM: Black

Right, remind me again why GTA isn't considered a casual game? It was the most popular thing around among my elementary & middle school classmates. You know, 10-to-12-year-olds?

The casual-core argument is stupid and I will not indulge it any further in this thread. As if one console's success is more "legitimate" because its best-selling titles appealed to a different market from another successful console's.

I agree with u on GTA, so many people bought that game just to cause mayhem and kill hookers. A few people I know own every GTA game but have never even tried actually playing thru the missions



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Lawlight on 16 May 2013
the_dengle said:
Lawlight said:


You croppped nothing. The best selling games on the PS2 were core games. Not so on the Wii. PS2 owes a large amount of its market dominance to DVD... in its first year. In the 2nd year, they destroyed with:

GT3: A-Spec

GTA 3

MGS2

FFX

Jak & Daxter

TM: Black

Right, remind me again why GTA isn't considered a casual game? It was the most popular thing around among my elementary & middle school classmates. You know, 10-to-12-year-olds?

The casual-core argument is stupid and I will not indulge it any further in this thread. As if one console's success is more "legitimate" because its best-selling titles appealed to a different market from another successful console's.


Yeah....I'm sure all those 10-12 year-olds' parents were buying those games for them. And I'm still not seeing GTA being a game played by soccer moms and senior citizens.