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Bong Lover said:
wow. What a huge pile of self indulgent, entitled excuses.

You need to grow up and get out of this early teenager mindset that the world owes you anything. All I see is a bunch of crying about this and that, yet the world is full of people who have it much worse than you who don't beat up anyone.

But I dont know what it's like, right? waaaah, waaaah, waaaaah. If you ever grow up and develop a grain of self insight you'll realize that everyone has shit they have to deal with.

You're 20 years old and should have figured this out about 4 years ago: Only you are responsible for your own situation, if something is not working out, change it. It's not going to be easy and people are not going to hand you stuff just for being you, cause you're not fucking 8 years old anymore, but stop giving yourself excuses. If you go back and read all of your replies here, is so full of excuses it's embarrassing.

"He broke his word", "Any other male would do the same", "I've had to go through hell", "you don't know what it's like", "I tried to walk away, but ...", "I've never asked for anything", "You didn't read the whole story", "My dad was verbally abusive"

It's all a bunch of excuses you're making so you can point the fingers at everyone else, and not have to face the facts that you're acting like an overgrown child. Go back and read, I challenge you. You start this thread seemingly asking if you were wrong in what you did, which you obviously were, but as soon as someone points this out you're full of excuses. "You didn't read it all", "Well, I also could have mentioned this ", and more crying. I suspect the real reason you started this thread was because you wanted to wallow in the delightful misery of having people tell you how awful your step dad is, and poor you, and more stroking of your little child ego.

Stop blaming other people for your own situation and do what your step dad tells you: Man up.


He doesn't get it. He's been babied his whole life I'm sure. It's never his fault. When something doesnt go his way he acts like a child. Anyway it seems if you start asking the right questions. Well wrong if you're him(do you work, pay bills etc) he will ignore or say you didnt read. This dude is straight comedy. Now he leaves without answering the questions that might reveal how HE really is.

 



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Guys, I believe the OP mentioned something about helping him find a job, so with that we can assume he didn't contribute anything to the household. He mentioned he took care of HIS stuff, like washing his own dishes.

20 years old, has no license, has no job, doesn't help with yardwork, doesn't cook, but he DOES wash his own dishes. Clearly he looks out for himself and himself alone. To me it sounds like whatever yelling came his way was very well deserved. He doesn't understand anything from their point of view. A grown ass man who mooches off them while willing to contribute nothing in return.


Now he says he will talk to his step-dad again, but only when and if the Step-Father wants to.

Instead he should be a man, realize what he did wrong and go there himself to patch things up. He is the one who created a big rift in the household and it is he who should make the strides in order to fix it.



This thread at this point should be left to die.



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Euphoria14 said:

Guys, I believe the OP mentioned something about helping him find a job, so with that we can assume he didn't contribute anything to the household. He mentioned he took care of HIS stuff, like washing his own dishes.

20 years old, has no license, has no job, doesn't help with yardwork, doesn't cook, but he DOES wash his own dishes. Clearly he looks out for himself and himself alone. To me it sounds like whatever yelling came his way was very well deserved. He doesn't understand anything from their point of view. A grown ass man who mooches off them while willing to contribute nothing in return.


Now he says he will talk to his step-dad again, but only when and if the Step-Father wants to.

Instead he should be a man, realize what he did wrong and go there himself to patch things up. He is the one who created a big rift in the household and it is he who should make the strides in order to fix it.



This thread at this point should be left to die.

Whole heartedly agree. After this post I'm gone.

OP - if you are really concerned with correcting the situation maybe you should apologize first of all and then explain you point of view that you didn't apreciate being insulted and that you don't deserve that. Offer to do yard work every Sunday or something. I'm sure it will go a LONG way if you show you want to respect and you show you deserve it



OP, sorry but you sound like a terror. The guy has given you driving lessons (however infrequent they were), has made you meals, and I am supposing the place is his house though I don't remember (nor do I care enough to go back and check...also I am only answering based off the initial post). You just complain about how he's annoying and wants you to do stuff, but the fact is if you are a real man you would be doing all that stuff for yourself in the first place. If you still live with you mom and stepdad, you should be doing chores (whatever he asked like cutting down a tree), you should be looking for work and helping out. Instead, you punch a guy while he's sitting. The fact is, just like you don't owe him any favors, he doesn't to you, but even from what you've wrote, it seems to be that he's done way more for you than you want to admit.

No offense, but I feel bad for your stepfather.



Wow, people are coming at you hard in this thread, Horrorfest.

The reactions here to your story make me depressed.

I hope you are able to brush it off as ignorance of their part.



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We started somewhat talking today. He left me a voicemail on my aunts house phone apologizing saying he was way out of line, there is no hard feelings and he is glad I stood up for myself and when I want to talk he would like to. I actually was going to talk to him today but I got put in a bad mood from some really annoying school work (exam was supposed to be on one chapter based on the guidelines but instead was on three chapters) so I didn't want to talk with me being in a bad mood and already irritated.

I did talk to my mother though and heard him say hello in the background so I told her to tell him I said hello. She asked if I wanted to talk to him and I said not right now. I will talk to him sometime this weekend and say sorry to him then.

I guess he is also going to see a counselor on Monday and both him and my mother may go through couples therapy. I don't want to see one but I can't anyways between school, looking everywhere for a job, saving for a car, etc. He has a lot of spare time that I unfortunately don't have but I'm not against going when I can, I just don't want to. Telling personal things to people I won't ever meet is one thing which was weird since I rarely tell people online personal things but in person....I am a VERY private person.



Slimebeast said:

Wow, people are coming at you hard in this thread, Horrorfest.

The reactions here to your story make me depressed.

I hope you are able to brush it off as ignorance of their part.

I do for the most part. I took note of everyone who actually bothered to read my story whether they thought I was wrong or not. I can honestly say I have been through hell in my life. I don't even think I could wish it all upon my worst enemy. I really have no idea how I have managed to get through it. However, I have been trying to make something of my life. It's a little hard when I don't have parents who can just go out and buy me a car and have family/friends hand me a job but I'm trying.

As for acting like I have it worse than everyone else, I haven't. I just judge my own life as opposed to comparing it. I have been through more than most people but I am never going to say I have it the worst. There is certainly many people who have gone through harder times than me. Like those girls who were kidnapped in Ohio. I can't even fathom how the hell they got through all of that. 



@Slimebeast

Not trying to start a fight but to call people ignorant for having a stance opposite of yours or the OPs is kinda offensive.

I read the post and I really don't think the final outcome of the situation (violence) was called for. It wasn't self defense, it wasn't protection of a loved one, it was just someone boiling over and sucker punching another guy in the face while he was sitting and then beating him when he (the stepfather) defended himself. How is it ignorant for people to give the OP a piece of their mind when he's asked for reader's opinions on whether he's wrong or right?

And I'm not saying he hasn't had a hard life (I'm sure he did considering he seems to have anger issues and those usually don't stem out of thin air). I'm also not going to claim his step father wasn't an asshole, because I don't know him. But from what the OP said, along with even the latest post where he claimed the stepfather was going to seek therapy and accepted his wrong, I can't help but feel bad for the guy (stepdad) because it seems like he's tried while the OP hasn't. Horrorfest doesn't believe he should contribute anything to his household unless he's compensated, he isn't grateful for what he's been given (because apparently driving lessons, prepared meals, a house over your head, etc. doesn't count since he never asked for any of it and shut himself off from the others, according to his arguments), and he's proposed that anyone else would do the same after all the stepfather's bitching in one of his posts. But I wouldn't, because I have family that's crazy too and that doesn't make me go apeshit on them. I'm not going to have a dick measuring contest, but I can assure you my life isn't grand (and the shit in my life isn't limited to being verbally abused, not getting my parents to buy me a car or being handed a job like Horrorfest states, but real physical abuse among other things I rather not discuss) and that won't ever justify me acting out in a violent way on another person.

The truth is a lot of people had negative things to say because we read what Horrorfest had to say and we didn't agree. Instead of claiming those people are ignorant, maybe you should read the post and stop enabling him by trashing those who don't agree with his perspective.



Exactly Danasider. I won't touch on what Slimebeast wrote because your response was perfect.
I'm assuming your mom may be going to therapy through her job Horrorfest and you may be able to go separately for free.
Please drop your pride and try to talk to the guy. You are no better than he is and I see no reason why you can't reach out to him sometime. I think one day you will see how silly this all is no matter who is at fault. That's usually how things go in life.



danasider said:
@Slimebeast

Not trying to start a fight but to call people ignorant for having a stance opposite of yours or the OPs is kinda offensive.

I read the post and I really don't think the final outcome of the situation (violence) was called for. It wasn't self defense, it wasn't protection of a loved one, it was just someone boiling over and sucker punching another guy in the face while he was sitting and then beating him when he (the stepfather) defended himself. How is it ignorant for people to give the OP a piece of their mind when he's asked for reader's opinions on whether he's wrong or right?

And I'm not saying he hasn't had a hard life (I'm sure he did considering he seems to have anger issues and those usually don't stem out of thin air). I'm also not going to claim his step father wasn't an asshole, because I don't know him. But from what the OP said, along with even the latest post where he claimed the stepfather was going to seek therapy and accepted his wrong, I can't help but feel bad for the guy (stepdad) because it seems like he's tried while the OP hasn't. Horrorfest doesn't believe he should contribute anything to his household unless he's compensated, he isn't grateful for what he's been given (because apparently driving lessons, prepared meals, a house over your head, etc. doesn't count since he never asked for any of it and shut himself off from the others, according to his arguments), and he's proposed that anyone else would do the same after all the stepfather's bitching in one of his posts. But I wouldn't, because I have family that's crazy too and that doesn't make me go apeshit on them. I'm not going to have a dick measuring contest, but I can assure you my life isn't grand (and the shit in my life isn't limited to being verbally abused, not getting my parents to buy me a car or being handed a job like Horrorfest states, but real physical abuse among other things I rather not discuss) and that won't ever justify me acting out in a violent way on another person.

The truth is a lot of people had negative things to say because we read what Horrorfest had to say and we didn't agree. Instead of claiming those people are ignorant, maybe you should read the post and stop enabling him by trashing those who don't agree with his perspective.

I'm sorry if I offended you, but that wasn't my intention. Perhaps you felt more attacked because you had the last post but I was addressing everyone here.

I meant "ignorance" as in the neutral meaning of the word, as in simply not knowing any better, not so much the nasty "deliberate ignorance".

Now let me clarify, and this post isn't directed at you specifically but to the majority of attitudes shown in this thread.

1. There's the violence part. Violence is seldom justified and seldom leads to anything good, but the violence was just one part of Horrofest's story. Personally I think the beating seems understandable, perhaps even justified but I can understand that people condemn Horrorfest for the violence. But most people didn't comment just the beating of the dad.

2. Horrorfest's background and situation in life. He said he has gone through hell in his life and went through depression and social isolation. Several people have downplayed this part in a very unsensible manner in my opinion. It's one thing to say that a bad life doesn't justify any violence towards another person, but it's another thing to belittle someone's suffering. And to compare one person's suffering to people who may have it even worse is unnecessary and insensitive. Horrorfest tells us he's gone through hell and I see no reason to question that.

3. The family situation. People in this thread imply that Horrorfest should be thankful to his stepdad and should show more responsibility for the household. They side with the stepdad based on the situation even before the violence. I disagree with that. To me it seems like the stepdad is a pain in the ass on a young guy who already has enough problems and is just asking to be left alone. The stepdad doesn't seem to respect his stepson and doesn't care for his needs. Horrorfest repeatedly tells us the stepdad is verbally harassing him. Of course one could question the severity of the harassments, but I see no reason to not believe Horrorfest and assume that they're over a reasonable limit.