| danasider said: @Slimebeast Not trying to start a fight but to call people ignorant for having a stance opposite of yours or the OPs is kinda offensive. I read the post and I really don't think the final outcome of the situation (violence) was called for. It wasn't self defense, it wasn't protection of a loved one, it was just someone boiling over and sucker punching another guy in the face while he was sitting and then beating him when he (the stepfather) defended himself. How is it ignorant for people to give the OP a piece of their mind when he's asked for reader's opinions on whether he's wrong or right? And I'm not saying he hasn't had a hard life (I'm sure he did considering he seems to have anger issues and those usually don't stem out of thin air). I'm also not going to claim his step father wasn't an asshole, because I don't know him. But from what the OP said, along with even the latest post where he claimed the stepfather was going to seek therapy and accepted his wrong, I can't help but feel bad for the guy (stepdad) because it seems like he's tried while the OP hasn't. Horrorfest doesn't believe he should contribute anything to his household unless he's compensated, he isn't grateful for what he's been given (because apparently driving lessons, prepared meals, a house over your head, etc. doesn't count since he never asked for any of it and shut himself off from the others, according to his arguments), and he's proposed that anyone else would do the same after all the stepfather's bitching in one of his posts. But I wouldn't, because I have family that's crazy too and that doesn't make me go apeshit on them. I'm not going to have a dick measuring contest, but I can assure you my life isn't grand (and the shit in my life isn't limited to being verbally abused, not getting my parents to buy me a car or being handed a job like Horrorfest states, but real physical abuse among other things I rather not discuss) and that won't ever justify me acting out in a violent way on another person. The truth is a lot of people had negative things to say because we read what Horrorfest had to say and we didn't agree. Instead of claiming those people are ignorant, maybe you should read the post and stop enabling him by trashing those who don't agree with his perspective. |
I'm sorry if I offended you, but that wasn't my intention. Perhaps you felt more attacked because you had the last post but I was addressing everyone here.
I meant "ignorance" as in the neutral meaning of the word, as in simply not knowing any better, not so much the nasty "deliberate ignorance".
Now let me clarify, and this post isn't directed at you specifically but to the majority of attitudes shown in this thread.
1. There's the violence part. Violence is seldom justified and seldom leads to anything good, but the violence was just one part of Horrofest's story. Personally I think the beating seems understandable, perhaps even justified but I can understand that people condemn Horrorfest for the violence. But most people didn't comment just the beating of the dad.
2. Horrorfest's background and situation in life. He said he has gone through hell in his life and went through depression and social isolation. Several people have downplayed this part in a very unsensible manner in my opinion. It's one thing to say that a bad life doesn't justify any violence towards another person, but it's another thing to belittle someone's suffering. And to compare one person's suffering to people who may have it even worse is unnecessary and insensitive. Horrorfest tells us he's gone through hell and I see no reason to question that.
3. The family situation. People in this thread imply that Horrorfest should be thankful to his stepdad and should show more responsibility for the household. They side with the stepdad based on the situation even before the violence. I disagree with that. To me it seems like the stepdad is a pain in the ass on a young guy who already has enough problems and is just asking to be left alone. The stepdad doesn't seem to respect his stepson and doesn't care for his needs. Horrorfest repeatedly tells us the stepdad is verbally harassing him. Of course one could question the severity of the harassments, but I see no reason to not believe Horrorfest and assume that they're over a reasonable limit.
