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Anari said:
naruball said:
Anari said:
naruball said:
Anari said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
why this game is such a hit? some dudes killing some monsters , does this sell well in europe and amurica ?


I really like how all of a sudden alot of people are puzzled as to why people think MH is a good game.

And all of a sudden a game(s) I've never heard about before, GodEater and some other game I can't remember, are 'better than MH anyways, so who cares'.

Sour grapes and all that.

Yeah, cuz clearly it's impossibel for people to actually likle GodEater over MH. Sour grapes is the only explanation.


Yes, that is totally what i said.

Good for you


It's okay. Don't be ashamed of your bad reading comprehension.

Happens to the best of us.

Yet another fantastic argument. Good job. keep it up.



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pezus said:
Soundwave said:


Where exactly does the Vita benefit Capcom at all?

- Lower userbase (much lower)

- More expensive development cost

They can sell far more Monster Hunter games on the 3DS at a cheaper dev cost. Why even bother with the Vita. Capcom isn't supporting the platform at all anyway.

The real reason honestly Sony even got a whiff of Monster Hunter was because the DS wasn't that great at running polygonal graphics. Now that the 3DS can do an adequete job of it, Capcom simply doesn't need Sony.

Japan's biggest 3rd party franchise should be with Japanese biggest selling hardware. To the victor go the spoils, that's the way its always been, where people crying this much when the GameCube didn't get Final Fantasy X or MGS2?

Or when PS3 didn't get all the 3rd party games...oh wait. MH games sell historically well on Playstation portables and they could've continued that tradition on Vita. PSP really took off in Japan because of MH. A MH on Vita would've done the same. You really think Capcom doesn't know that MH would sell well on Vita? The only reason they could be ignoring Vita exclusively is because Nintendo paid for it.

"MH games sell historically well on Playstation portables"

This statement is flawed because MH had only been released exclusively on the PSP for that whole generation, so yes it would sell best, seeing that it was only released on that system. And the best selling MH was Monster Hunter Freedom Unite with 5.3m, now if MH4 on 3DS can’t sell up to that number then you can say that Capcom made a mistake.



Demensha said:
naruball said:
Demensha said:

I'm confused. People on these forums have been blasting Nintendo is doomed and should switch to software only. That Nintendo needs to do something to keep third parties making games for their systems and to lock up key titles as exclusives. Mind you these comments range from nintendrones to sonytrolls. Now when Nintendo goes out and makes a huge ay such as lock up monster hunter for their 3ds or pay to develop and publish bayonetta 2 Sony and Microsoft fans go bonkers. O crapcom this crapcom that... What if there was only a vita version? It wouldn't be crapcom anymore because it would benifit sony's platform. You people are so contradicting its just ridiculous. Grow up and deal with it. You laugh every time Nintendo doesn't get a port of an upcoming game yet cry for this please. Me personally I'm glad vita won't get this title even if it's a delayed release.

Instead of complaining about exclusivity why not just buy a 3ds and mh4 and play the game you are so upset about?

There are more than enough games to justify a 140$ few 3ds or 180$ for the XL. 

The major point of discussion here is not whether Ninty did a great job moneyhatting Capcom (I appluad them for that), but whether they are not developing a psvita mh game, porting an already made game or even making a spin off (ok that's just my point) for the vita to make more money. Based on their past decisions, the small install base of vita is not a compelling argument, as shown by games on WiiU and 360. Based on the facts we have it's much more likely that they have a deal and are not allowed to release a mh game on psvita. That's all.

@bolded

I'm sorry, but I find this a terrible argument. Following this logic, one should not complain about the lack of 3rd party  games on wiiu and just get a ps3 super slim. It costs less than a wiiu and has a much better library.


I'm sorry how is purchasing a certain device to play a game that you want to play a bad thing?  Another thing if I want to play gta4 can I do it on my wii u? Nope! so I'm forced to buy either a play station or an Xbox360. FYI I did purchase a ps3 for god of war and batman. 

The reason this argument pisses people off is because of how certain Sony fans go over board for one game. I mean really people calling them crapcom, or claiming they will boycott all future capcom games until a MH4 is released on vita. This type of attitude is just silly. While we are at it lets call this what it really is. Vita install base sucks donkey ass and a mh game would help the vita Immensely at least in Japan and that's the real reason people are crying. They don't like seeing their companies device flounder especially to a childish Nintendo device.

I don't disagree with the bolded. That's not the point.

For most people with limited expenses and/or limited space having a second or third console is a big deal. It's not a bad thing, but it IS convenient or even not an option. Complaining about lack of support is only natural. That's why I don't see anything wrong about WiiU owners complaing about 3rd party games, though the low sales of on wiiu of anything (exaggeration, I know) not 1st party makes sense. On the other hand, the success of Mh as a franchise on ps consoles suggests that a port, a spin off or a an actual game on vita would make business sense for Capcom (i.e. they would actually make money). Sure, it would help vita hd sales and ps fans sleep better at night, but that doesn't change the fact that it is either a bad decision from Capcom or possibly a good one if Ninty gave them more money for portbale exlcusivity than they could make on vita.



thekin said:
pezus said:
Soundwave said:


Where exactly does the Vita benefit Capcom at all?

- Lower userbase (much lower)

- More expensive development cost

They can sell far more Monster Hunter games on the 3DS at a cheaper dev cost. Why even bother with the Vita. Capcom isn't supporting the platform at all anyway.

The real reason honestly Sony even got a whiff of Monster Hunter was because the DS wasn't that great at running polygonal graphics. Now that the 3DS can do an adequete job of it, Capcom simply doesn't need Sony.

Japan's biggest 3rd party franchise should be with Japanese biggest selling hardware. To the victor go the spoils, that's the way its always been, where people crying this much when the GameCube didn't get Final Fantasy X or MGS2?

Or when PS3 didn't get all the 3rd party games...oh wait. MH games sell historically well on Playstation portables and they could've continued that tradition on Vita. PSP really took off in Japan because of MH. A MH on Vita would've done the same. You really think Capcom doesn't know that MH would sell well on Vita? The only reason they could be ignoring Vita exclusively is because Nintendo paid for it.

"MH games sell historically well on Playstation portables"

This statement is flawed because MH had only been released exclusively on the PSP for that whole generation, so yes it would sell best, seeing that it was only released on that system. And the best selling MH was Monster Hunter Freedom Unite with 5.3m, now if MH4 on 3DS can’t sell up to that number then you can say that Capcom made a mistake.


Not necessarily. MH has been growing as a franchise for a number of years. It is possible that it will sell better on 3ds not because it's a ninty console, but because of all the exposure it received by being released on every platform available. When it was released on psp, it was still growing as franchise. We will never know whether their decision was right or not or where it sells better.



Demensha said:
naruball said:
Demensha said:

I'm confused. People on these forums have been blasting Nintendo is doomed and should switch to software only. That Nintendo needs to do something to keep third parties making games for their systems and to lock up key titles as exclusives. Mind you these comments range from nintendrones to sonytrolls. Now when Nintendo goes out and makes a huge ay such as lock up monster hunter for their 3ds or pay to develop and publish bayonetta 2 Sony and Microsoft fans go bonkers. O crapcom this crapcom that... What if there was only a vita version? It wouldn't be crapcom anymore because it would benifit sony's platform. You people are so contradicting its just ridiculous. Grow up and deal with it. You laugh every time Nintendo doesn't get a port of an upcoming game yet cry for this please. Me personally I'm glad vita won't get this title even if it's a delayed release.

Instead of complaining about exclusivity why not just buy a 3ds and mh4 and play the game you are so upset about?

There are more than enough games to justify a 140$ few 3ds or 180$ for the XL. 

The major point of discussion here is not whether Ninty did a great job moneyhatting Capcom (I appluad them for that), but whether they are not developing a psvita mh game, porting an already made game or even making a spin off (ok that's just my point) for the vita to make more money. Based on their past decisions, the small install base of vita is not a compelling argument, as shown by games on WiiU and 360. Based on the facts we have it's much more likely that they have a deal and are not allowed to release a mh game on psvita. That's all.

@bolded

I'm sorry, but I find this a terrible argument. Following this logic, one should not complain about the lack of 3rd party  games on wiiu and just get a ps3 super slim. It costs less than a wiiu and has a much better library.


I'm sorry how is purchasing a certain device to play a game that you want to play a bad thing?  Another thing if I want to play gta4 can I do it on my wii u? Nope! so I'm forced to buy either a play station or an Xbox360. FYI I did purchase a ps3 for god of war and batman. 

The reason this argument pisses people off is because of how certain Sony fans go over board for one game (1). I mean really people calling them crapcom, or claiming they will boycott all future capcom games until a MH4 is released on vita. This type of attitude is just silly. (2) While we are at it lets call this what it really is. Vita install base sucks donkey ass and a mh game would help the vita Immensely at least in Japan and that's the real reason people are crying (3). They don't like seeing their companies device flounder especially to a childish Nintendo device. (4)

 

1) Not one game. MH4, RE: R are already two huge games and whatever is coming in the future will most probably miss Vita as well. It's not one game, it's a company ignoring the whole platform.

2) It's not silly, it's called voting with your wallet and is the foundation stone of a free market. I don't like what this company does, so I stop buying their products, can't see anything silly about it. It's exactly what people did with DmC. Fans don't want this new stupid Dante, they want the old one. They didn't buy DmC, so crapcom won't make a DmC2 now, if anything - when they get over what happened, they'll make a proper DMC5 with old Dante - just what fans want. Fans showed their power and I'm doing this one more time.

3) Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us. It's not like it's been said numerous times in this very topic and many other...

4) Yup. I want higher quality games and I have no doubt that a version of a game developed for Vita will be superior to a version of the same game developed for a 3DS, especially a game like MH or RE. Vita version will have better graphics and better controls - two things that make a big difference for me.

 

Also - comparing the lack of a MH or RE game on Vita to the lack of multiplats on Wii U is only right in principle, but there actually is a difference in real life. I can understand why a small or medium company decides not to make a Wii U port of a game that's maybe gonna sell 100-150k on Wii U. I don't like it and think there is no real excuse for huge companies like EA to do so, though Nintendo should do some additional enticing here, since a huge chunk of responsibility for core market moving away from their platforms lays on them. On the other hand these crapcom games would surely sell enough on Vita to make a profit, there is no risk of losing money on a Vita version. They wouldn't sell just 100k. I wouldn't be angry at any company for not making exclusive Vita games and instead going for multiplat 3DS/Vita. Porting a game is financially viable, especially if it's a big franchise with a tradition on Sony platforms, thus having a market here. If you refuse to do that - I refuse to buy your games.



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My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

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It would be nice if there was a Monster Hunter game on Vita, but sometimes not every game comes to every platform. It's been that way for 40 years.

If you love Monster Hunter so much, then you should buy a Wii U or a 3DS.

If you don't care about Monster Hunter, then why complain about its absence on Vita?

If you want MH on Vita just for bragging rights or to boost hardware sales, then I don't know what to tell you. It's not Capcom's job to sell Vita hardware or to secure development deals for Sony.



DeduS said:
Oh... and to all the gloating Nintendo fans: I hope you remember your cockiness the next time the WiiU gets shafted by a major third-party developer.

I've seen vastly more gloating from Sony/MS fans over games Wii/Wii U missed out on, so I'd say it's more of a matter of whether they remember their cockiness now that it's (possibly) happened to them. 



naruball said:
Anari said:
naruball said:
Anari said:
naruball said:
Anari said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
why this game is such a hit? some dudes killing some monsters , does this sell well in europe and amurica ?


I really like how all of a sudden alot of people are puzzled as to why people think MH is a good game.

And all of a sudden a game(s) I've never heard about before, GodEater and some other game I can't remember, are 'better than MH anyways, so who cares'.

Sour grapes and all that.

Yeah, cuz clearly it's impossibel for people to actually likle GodEater over MH. Sour grapes is the only explanation.


Yes, that is totally what i said.

Good for you


It's okay. Don't be ashamed of your bad reading comprehension.

Happens to the best of us.

Yet another fantastic argument. Good job. keep it up.


You say that as if we were debating back and forth on some subject...which we weren't. So yeah, no idea what you're going for here.



I think Monster Hunter is a good example of why Japanese games are become less relevant these days. Western Devs try to get their games out on every format under the sun to build huge userbases while Japanese devs will ofter barely make a single format that rarely leaves their home country.

Skyrim = Let's get this baby out on the PC/PS3/360/YoMamma with full DLC support including a new frikkin island and for love of money get this out to as many countries as possible!

Final Fantasy Type-0 = I want the PSP and nothing else! Don't you dare let this thing leave Japan or you're fired!

Unsurprisingly Skyrim sold over 150 times more that Type-0

I realise the example is not directly related to MonHunt but I think it's a good clear-cut example of Japans strange mindset when it comes to formats, global releases and their strange tendency to completely switch formats mid-franchise from time to time. It's like the prospect of releasing on the Vita and 3ds is just too mindblowing for them.



KylieDog said:
PullusPardus said:
most people are like "I ain't buying a vita until MH is released on it!, FUCK CRAPCOM/NINTENDO!!1" well , if you like MH so much then why not buy a 3DS instead? , I really don't know how people think sometimes, who cares about brand names, you're not buying a cult following or stocks of a company, you're buying games to enjoy them.


Because Capcom wouldn't release a Vita Monster Hunter with no online.  Different expectations from the userbase to be met.  The online Vita experience would also be better due to 3DS not having many of the features Vita does.


I own a Vita and 3DS, I'd only buy a Vita MH.

Yep, that is the reason why Monster Hunter 4 won´t have online play....oh wait !