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curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

if your talking about 720 sales, it will have great sales, but being online all the time, will really hurt it, but its first year in the us will be amazing.

No, I wasn't talking about sales, but since you brought it up, I agree that an "Always Online" requirement would hurt its sales.

Hell, I was open to getting a 720, I had a 360 last gen, but I certainly won't be buying one if it requires a constant online connection.

i'm thinking that games will have check points every 2 hours, that will tell you please connect to the internet to continue, then you can go on with out being connected but if 720 was 2x more powerful then ps4 i would still buy it.

Power's not such a big deal for me, I enjoyed the Wii the most of the 7th gen systems, but spending a sizeable chunk of my internet just to play offine, and being grounded whenever my net is down, that's a deal breaker for me.

honestly with out a big power increase, i would see no reason to buy a new console.

New games are my reason for buying any new system. I couldn't play Bioshock on my PS2, so I got a 360. I couldn't play Mario Galaxy on my 360, so I got a Wii. I can't play Monolith Soft's X on my Wii or my 360, so I'll buy a Wii U.

new games are great, but nothing beats the feeling of being completely blown away from a new nextgen console my best memories

mario

sonic the hedgehoge and street of rage 2.

mario 64 , golden eye, zelda,

sonic adventure, MGS2 and GT3

gears of war and red dead redemption

 

imagine if we stuck with the same hardware sincle the n64 era, that would be boring as hell a huge upgrade in power keeps things fresh, games get better with the tech also.

 



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ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:

New games are my reason for buying any new system. I couldn't play Bioshock on my PS2, so I got a 360. I couldn't play Mario Galaxy on my 360, so I got a Wii. I can't play Monolith Soft's X on my Wii or my 360, so I'll buy a Wii U.

new games are great, but nothing beats the feeling of being completely blown away from a new nextgen console my best memories

mario

sonic the hedgehoge and street of rage 2.

mario 64 , golden eye, zelda,

sonic adventure, MGS2 and GT3

gears of war and red dead redemption

 

imagine if we stuck with the same hardware sincle the n64 era, that would be boring as hell a huge upgrade in power keeps things fresh, games get better with the tech also.

 

There is definitely something special about playing a game for a next-generation system. The newness of it all is intoxicating :)

But I would dispute the second part of your post. I'm not sure if games are improving as technology gets better. If the industry was trapped in time in 1998 with N64, Saturn, and Playstation hardware, it wouldn't be such a bad thing. Developers could focus on refining the mechanics in their games, and worry less about state-of-the-art graphics, sound, lighting, physics, etc.



This is just the same bullshit narrative of Xbox is doomed they've been putting out for years. First the 360 was doomed because of RROD and all the core gamers were going to jump to PS3. Then it was when Kinect was announced and they claimed the 360 was doomed because "Microsoft was turning its back on core gamers" and they were all going to jump to PS3. Add to that the threads where they try to portray Xbox Live as a sinking ship with everyone cancelling their accounts.

Anyone that was stupid enough to eat it up years ago must have had a rude awakening when the 360 started its dominance of the North American sales charts or when Microsoft releases a new statement indicating that Xbox Live has increased its numbers and has broken some record.

They are of course having a field day with the next system but the funny part it that the amount of success the brand has seems to be proportional to their amount of doom bullshit so it wouldn't be surprising if the next Xbox is a runaway success.



ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:

if your talking about 720 sales, it will have great sales, but being online all the time, will really hurt it, but its first year in the us will be amazing.

No, I wasn't talking about sales, but since you brought it up, I agree that an "Always Online" requirement would hurt its sales.

Hell, I was open to getting a 720, I had a 360 last gen, but I certainly won't be buying one if it requires a constant online connection.

i'm thinking that games will have check points every 2 hours, that will tell you please connect to the internet to continue, then you can go on with out being connected but if 720 was 2x more powerful then ps4 i would still buy it.

Power's not such a big deal for me, I enjoyed the Wii the most of the 7th gen systems, but spending a sizeable chunk of my internet just to play offine, and being grounded whenever my net is down, that's a deal breaker for me.

honestly with out a big power increase, i would see no reason to buy a new console.

New games are my reason for buying any new system. I couldn't play Bioshock on my PS2, so I got a 360. I couldn't play Mario Galaxy on my 360, so I got a Wii. I can't play Monolith Soft's X on my Wii or my 360, so I'll buy a Wii U.

new games are great, but nothing beats the feeling of being completely blown away from a new nextgen console my best memories

mario

sonic the hedgehoge and street of rage 2.

mario 64 , golden eye, zelda,

sonic adventure, MGS2 and GT3

gears of war and red dead redemption

 

imagine if we stuck with the same hardware sincle the n64 era, that would be boring as hell a huge upgrade in power keeps things fresh, games get better with the tech also.

 

New gameplay gets to me more than high tech graphics though.

For me, the motion controls of Wii Sports Resort felt more "next gen" than any PS3/360 game.

And I don't agree about games getting better with more power; I've been gaming since the SNES, and today's games aren't any better.



well from my understanding no other system has been cornered as needing to be online all the time either, and that is the difference. M$ hasnt said anything, and the things that have come from people internally have been pointing to it being true and M$ not saying anything just kinda seems to confirm it, turning off the masses.

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No, the Next Box has received the most negative press of any console release so far. I have no doubt Microsoft will blow us away at E3 though, it is just a pity the rumours and leaks have been god awful. If they all turn out to be true, god help the console.



BenVTrigger said:

Honestly has there been a single rumor or "leak" about the new Xbox since the PS4 reveal thats cast it in a good light?

I have litteraly never seen a wave of negative rumors like this about a console thats never even been confirmed to exist before

It really makes you wonder what exactly is going on. Are the rumors complete fabrication? Are we just not seeing the whole picture and these rumored things that seem bad turn out awesome? Has MS completely lost their minds? I don't even know what to think at this point

Given the reaction of Microsoft's PR, I'd say the rumours are definitely coming from somewhere. You're right about the bigger picture possibly being better.



I honestly don't know anything so negative before a reveal, this is truely something



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i really dont know, but this is all good for the xbox, bad publicity is still publicity. the next gen xbox has been on the headline of all gaming news these past couple of weeks, the unofficial unannounced console has been getting more media attention than the announced PS4 these past couple of weeks



Theres a valuable lesson that you learn in PR: Silence is never the answer.

Its funny to see such a big company making such a crucial mistake.