Any proof for this or just "I have a dream"? :)Before saying this I would wait until NextBox event and even then...

So looking at that...we can guess the PS4 will cost around $1000? I hope not!

Maybe it won't though

In seriousness, there's a lot of hate from Nvidia here. That graph is also terrible, sorry but it is.

Conegamer said: So looking at that...we can guess the PS4 will cost around $1000? I hope not! Maybe it won't though

The cost doesn't matter to consumers, the price will.

walsufnir said: Conegamer said: So looking at that...we can guess the PS4 will cost around $1000? I hope not! Maybe it won't though The cost doesn't matter to consumers, the price will.

That's true, but I don't see Sony making a loss on it. So if it costs around $400 to make, then that will likely mean it'll sell for around $500. Of course, we don't know enough about the system yet, but that sounds reasonable.

Conegamer said: walsufnir said: Conegamer said: So looking at that...we can guess the PS4 will cost around $1000? I hope not! Maybe it won't though The cost doesn't matter to consumers, the price will. That's true, but I don't see Sony making a loss on it. So if it costs around $400 to make, then that will likely mean it'll sell for around $500. Of course, we don't know enough about the system yet, but that sounds reasonable.

Including R&D? Also I always laugh when I see cost-estimates which are somehow aligned to something "$guess mod 100 = 0" ;) Especially when psEye is also included I doubt Sony won't make any loss and don't forget that Sony will have to make sure they are not more expensive than NextBox where we know close to nothing by now, especially not the price.

Will be interesting this year! 

If this article is true than my statement would indeed be close to the truth. 8th generation could be a repeat of the 7th generation with the PS3/4 being more powerful than its XBox rival. The exclusives are graphically better on PS3 than the X360 and multi-platform games look the same on both systems.

Well, at least Halo 4 and Forza Horizon look extremely good - if anything looks better than games on another system is always biased - especially when games are in different genres. And most multi-plats look better on 360 given tech-analyzes but that doesn't make the games worse on ps3.

This.

I still wonder why people ignore the context of this document. This is not an attack on the PS4 or AMD but instead this slide was from a GDC presentation on gaming in the cloud. It's Nvidia solution to consoles and even highend cards in general.

Right now you have just about every device you can imaging able to access the internet. You already have services like Sony Giakia or OnLive. Nvidia is promoting their Grid GPU arch to provide dedicated hardware for just this purpose.

Instead of building low margin chips for the consoles, it appears that Nvidia has another solution that will be competition. It is rumored that the steambox has changed design where it was going to be a PC in a box using Nvidia hardware but now is going to be a streaming box which would make it much cheaper. The box will be able to stream your games you have on your PC and also stream from the internet.

Does it not make sense that if the box is a dedicated game streamer that the cost will be way cheaper than your current consoles. Also if using the Grid solution from Nvidia, you can have Highend PC quality games with everything turned on streamed to your TV thus providing next gen games for a fraction of the cost.

This is from Nvidia Website on the Grid tech



GaaS: FREEDOM FROM THE CONSOLE
NVIDIA GRID for Cloud Gaming

NVIDIA GRID is the foundation for the ideal on-demand gaming as a service (GaaS), providing tremendous advantages over traditional console gaming systems.

Any-device gaming: High-quality, low-latency, multi device gaming on any PC, Mac, tablet, smartphone or TV.
Click-to-play simplicity: Anytime access to a library of gaming titles and saved games in the cloud. Play or continue games from any device, anywhere.
Less hassle: No new hardware. No complicated setup. No game discs. No digital downloads. No game installations. No game patches.

So people are wondering why Nvidia isn't putting their money with the current consoles OEMs. Its not that they are butthurt or that they are scared that AMD will have some type of advantage but instead they have something they feel is competition for the space and are trying to promote their product. Freedom from publishers and OEM console makers running on a services like Steam which a lot of people already use sounds like a good market to develop your next hardware in. Maybe this is the reason Nvidia stated that their bandwidth is only so big that they cannot waste time on something that will not net enough profit at the cost of better ventures.

I agree Microsoft is a not a video game company of course, but at least they didnt behave like sony did all cocky and whatnot toward sega and nintendo.

That is the difference Microsoft bought online gaming and a good developer environment and actually tried to compete with Sony not try cheap

tricks to get ahead of the competition THAT IS WHY I RESPECT MICROSOFT and will support them.