It says "doesn't support play from blu-ray disc". This doesn't mean no used games, it just means the game HAS to be installed WITH disc in drive to enable play. It means it doesn't stream data from the disc, but from hard drive, and the disc is there like the optional 360 installs.

Umm, exactly which part do you think I'm not reading? That all games require mandatory installs? Do you know how much time it takes to copy a BR to a harddrive? Or howabout that it's always connected to a network? What part am I missing??

That would be a reversal. PS3 needed the installs (the majority of the time) in order to play while 360 didn't. Now this.

Game discs becoming useless after installing the game in the hard drive ?

I hope it's not true,

It never said no used games

It never said required online

Mandatory install?"An installation system is being designed that will allow gamers to begin playing while the game is being installed on the hard drive rather than waiting until insatallation is complete."

With every rumor, I lose more and more interest in the next Xbox.

Did i say no used games?
Did I say required online?

Maybe it is you who should worry about reading.

PS: Ok I did miss that part about playing while installing. But hopefully they have some kind of space fix, because that's going to be a shitload of data on teh harddrive.

I guess if you keep hearing about something...

This can't be true, there's no way Microsoft is this stupid

I don't get it. What exactly is stupid??