Who cares? What you're trying to do is justify the PS3 sales by saying its problems. Why then would the Wii U's sales not be justified by its problems? Huge drought of games since launch, most games are late ports, only a few first party titles, minimal storage, hard to sell gimmick, not a huge graphical leap, more expensive than any other system, and yet the Wii U has sold 2.7 million in four months. That's impressive.

Same lol I don' bother reading essay's that people write to me on the internet.

Well, you're both so cool: "I don't read anything so that I have to change my believe in wrong myths." Well, so you basically both are saying discussion with you is useless, because you will not read anything about facts or data. Good to know.

Your right , however the cliff Vita went off came a lot quicker....

No, I'm saying it's an art form to be able to directly get your point across in a timely manner and people should learn how to do it if they want a response from me. Politicians need to learn it. Teachers need to learn it.

I was, but you both were spinning the point. KingHades was pointing out, that the PS3 was launching later. I proofed with sales-data, that even considering the later launch the WiiU sold betetr initially. In a short post. Since then you both sidestepped the argument and added much spin. So the long post was needed to address all the spin brought up in between.

But to keep it short: as long as you don't counter my proof (based on sales-data), it is crystal clear that WiiU outsold PS3 at launch, even including european launch for PS3. After that sales dropped below the momentum of the PS3, but the topic of this thread are the initial sales.

I have provided solid sales figures. Your data is flawed since you are sourcingVGC. My data is 100% more accurate than yours... ya know... because it's straight from the companies financials.

Ps3 shipped 3.5mil at the end of March with 1 week of European numbers. Wii U has shipped 3mil at the end of December and has reached lower sales than the Ps3 did.

Only spin here is you by talking about initial sales when we have so much better data since then to compare.

Nice. So it´s clear that the WiiU did better than Xbox 360 and PS3 on its first six weeks and any of those consoles were able to beat Wii sales on the first 15 weeks. Thanks a lot for that. So we can say for sure that WiiU initial sales were really better than PS3 and 360, exactely as the title of this thread says, for that period.

Of course, people here will interpret your table according to their personal tastes and, of course, fanboyism, what is a shame

In 2013 Wii U sold 182k in Japan

In 2007 Ps3 sold 307k in Japan

Ps3 sold 125k more in Japan than Wii U from Jan - present

In 2007 Ps3 sold 244k in Jan and 127k in Feb in US.

In 2013 Wii U sold 57k in Jan and 63k in Feb in the US

Ps3 sold 250k more in US than Wii U from Jan - Feb

NOW HERE IS THE KICKER! Ps3 shipped 1.8mil in this quarter.

1.8 MILLION YOU SAY? Well take away 375k Ps3 sold more than the Wii U and you still get 1.425million. Add that to the 3mil Nintendo already has and you get 4.425mil from nintendo! THATS GREAT! 4.425 > 3.5 mil Ps3 had.... oh but wait... 1 mil of that 1.8mil Ps3 shipped went directly to Europe... Nintendo won't be shipping anywhere near that in Europe this quarter. So in Japan and US Nintendo's strongest market by far you get 425k shipped AT BEST (though most likely less than this because Wii U won't be matching Ps3's shipments)... Nintendo needs to ship 75k to match the Ps3's shipments from the same time. Possible? Obviously, but it won't be a significant difference... and considering the Ps3 missed 80% of the quarter in it's best region... I can't see how anyone would try to compare the two to say Wii U could possibly turn into the next ps3 or 360 and sell 70mil

Edit: this is assuming the Wii DOUBLES it's sales in March in NPD and doesn't fall behind Ps3 even more. This is also assuming the Wii U DOUBLES it's sales in Japan and doesn't fall more behind in March (which I can see happening)

You sompare one quarter of shipments for WiiU with two quarters for PS and assume somethign about a second shipment for WiiU. Data is something different as stuff you make up.

And I always said, that the WiiU sold worse later on. Why do you even try to say I spin this. But topic of this thread is ... ah I forgot, you don't like reading stuff.