Would say problem is not the Wii specifically, but the demographic(s) that the WiiU is trying to serve.

The Wii served a bunch of "casuals" for the most part, which is fine. Opened up "gaming" at a relatively cheap price to a bunch of people who didn't game much at all before. Now, some of those people probably gamed a lot, but I would say the majority of those people mainly played the Wii for a bit and busted it out for parties and that's it. Completely fine usage o the device. Now, those same people that see "a game console" as a piece of electronics that will "be used once a month" like the Wii, now see the WiiU as the same thing, but more expensive. Why drop even more money on something they won't use frequently?

So, the problem is the focusing on the non-casual market and the fact that the Wii didn't offer most people much beyond Wii Sports.

Hmm good point.

But at the same time I wonder how dumb people have to be.

1. its not a Wii
2. They bought their stupid babies $90  Nike (or any other brand for that matter) shoes  and shirts etc.    stupid clothes! that the stupid baby can only wear for a few weeks  just to go out and buy another pair of brand  shit.     Those people deserve to be shot :)


Btw I am pretty sure WiiU sells  okayish  I mean its a new system with no games that has to compete with PS3 360 and even Wii and to a lesser extend 3DS and Vita.  It just has no games and noone should expect WiiU to reach 100million liftetime like Wii anyways.

You should ask your next customer if the kids play 3DS and then should convince them that the tablet screen makes the system more a 3DS than a Wii.

ninjablade- Both PS3 and 360 are light years ahead of Wii in terms of power, but both still sit 20 odd million behind in sales. Wii 3rd party support was average at best, and even Nintendo havent properly supported it for a good couple of years now. PS3 and 360 have games galore and the best 3rd party support available..and still they sit 20 odd million behind.
Yes power is a good thing,and i want to see great graphics, but it isnt always enough.

I actually thought that the name Wii U would really screw Nintendo over. I get that they were trying to grab the buyers of Wii, but the mainstream market probably think it's the same thing on a handheld device. They should've name it something else so people would be excited about getting something new.

wii sold because of its motion controls? if you take away the motion controls, what do you have. interms of sales, probably less then gamecube numbers.

I semi-agree, though I would say the problem with the Wii U is the LATER years of Wii..

I definitly think people's trust in Nintendo has been shaken after the last couple years of the Wii what with the brutal dry spells. Hell even me, a lifelong Nintendo fan, isn't even considering buying a Wii U until at least the end of the year, and I've only JUST purchased a 3DS. Part of that is the lack of third parties but not all of it. Nintendo simply stopped making games for Wii far too early IMO. After NSMB Wii in 09, there really wasn't a whole lot else.

However, all hope is not lost. If Nintendo cranks out enough games, sort of like they are currently with 3DS, eventually the consumers will follow. They need to focus less on 3DS, as it's got a sufficient amount of games and third parties are stronger there, and focus WAY more on Wii U. They also need to focus on landing some more 2nd party stuff to help fill in the gaps, similar to Xenoblade, Last Story, Retro, etc. I think third parties are too stubborn and scared of going up against Nintendo games so that's not really an option at this point, but I do think they can do a lot more than they are doing as far as 2nd party software.

ninjablade- That was my point, whilst high end specs and graphics are nice, ulitmately you need that something else to set you apart from the competition (hence motion controls). PS3 proved that having a high end console selling at a high price can result in heavy losses.The WiiU tablet controller has split opinion, but in the future it might just be WiiUs killer app, but only if devs realise what potential it can bring to gaming and fulfill it.

why do you need something else? every generation since nthe nes has been about a huge upgrade in specs, that's the way every generation worked just because it worked with the wii one time its a reciepa for success? i think its a reciepa for disaster, and as for ps3, they could made a system with same specs as 360 and no blue ray and they would dominated this generation easily, it was blue ray that really hurt sony this gen and a little of it was cell.

ninjablade- Of course you need that something else, you may not realise it but when Sony was dominating, they had that "something else" other than better hardware specs. They had courted the 3rd parties in a way that Nintendo couldnt..that was something else, they created brand Playstation..that was something else, added DVD playback to PS2..that was something else. Those things set Playstation apart, as they didnt have the most powerful hardware on the market at that time.

you need the games and the tech, cd and dvd, help but to me thats what will drive sales, and i think wiiu would be selling so much better if the wii was some what comparable to 360/ps3 in tech and online play, the wii would have recieved way more third party support and games wouldn't look a generation behind 360/ps3 games but i think the damage has been done like the op said.