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platformmaster918 on 05 March 2013
tres said:
and my question as always does this add value to your life

we're on a video games sales site.  Are we not supposed to talk about hardware and software sales for games or make predictions?




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Chris Hu on 05 March 2013
ethomaz said:
In 2020 people will question "Which console was the market leader in 7th gen consoles?" The answer will be PS3 and nobody will remember Wii or 360... that's how the history was made.

PS3 110-115 million coming at the end to be the best selling console this generation.

My prediction: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=150842


You might think so but I will look at software sales and will remeber how well Minecraft and other online titles sold on the 360 and the shear number of other online contend the 360 offered that was substantialy more then the PS3 and Wii combined and the clear winner in my book is and always will be the 360.  Software sales trump hardware sales because that's where the money is made.  Selling more hardware at a loss does not make you a winner.



ethomaz on 05 March 2013
Chris Hu said:
ethomaz said:
In 2020 people will question "Which console was the market leader in 7th gen consoles?" The answer will be PS3 and nobody will remember Wii or 360... that's how the history was made.

PS3 110-115 million coming at the end to be the best selling console this generation.

My prediction: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=150842


You might think so but I will look at software sales and will remeber how well Minecraft and other online titles sold on the 360 and the shear number of other online contend the 360 offered that was substantialy more then the PS3 and Wii combined and the clear winner in my book is and always will be the 360.  Software sales trump hardware sales because that's where the money is made.  Selling more hardware at a loss does not make you a winner.

360 software sales is inaccurate and unconfirmed... the PS3 and Wii not.

In any case PS3 will top the 360 sofware sales in one or two years.



platformmaster918 on 05 March 2013

consider the historical implications if this were to happen
It would be the first ever triple crown in gaming. Atari only had one gen. Nintendo had 2 in a row. Sony has 2 in row running. If they could do the 3 peat it would be monumental. I can imagine that as a giant bomb at E3 2017 or whatever year it will be. I think they'll gloat a little about passing 360 globally at this E3 if it's happened by the time June rolls around (software spikes could make it so).




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GribbleGrunger on 05 March 2013
aikohualda said:
GribbleGrunger said:
aikohualda said:
if they want to hurt ps4 sales..yes..... would they do it? very unlikely....


I love the fact that some people say that as if the previous console was made by a different company.

It used to make me laugh when people said that Blu-ray wouldn't be successful because DVD was still popular and selling well.

????

sorry i dont get the analogy...

Because it's about profits. The companies involved are the very same companies and so regardless of how well one thing does over another the money goes to the same people. People say that Sony should pull the PSP because it hurts PSVita sales for the very same silly logic. Sony want to make money regardless of where it comes from. Companies that sell Blu-ray discs wanted to make money too, so they continued selling DVDs. It's about transitioning not up front profits from only ONE source.



 

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Conegamer on 05 March 2013

Nah I think 90mil max still. Ahead of the 360 but not the Wii.



 

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aikohualda on 05 March 2013
GribbleGrunger said:
aikohualda said:
GribbleGrunger said:
aikohualda said:
if they want to hurt ps4 sales..yes..... would they do it? very unlikely....


I love the fact that some people say that as if the previous console was made by a different company.

It used to make me laugh when people said that Blu-ray wouldn't be successful because DVD was still popular and selling well.

????

sorry i dont get the analogy...

Because it's about profits. The companies involved are the very same companies and so regardless of how well one thing does over another the money goes to the same people. People say that Sony should pull the PSP because it hurts PSVita sales for the very same silly logic. Sony want to make money regardless of where it comes from. Companies that sell Blu-ray discs wanted to make money too, so they continued selling DVDs. It's about transitioning not up front profits from only ONE source.

oh ok so we are on the same boat here...

i dont think sony could care less being "number 1" in this generation... yep it is all about the $$$



 

Chris Hu on 05 March 2013
ethomaz said:
Chris Hu said:
ethomaz said:
In 2020 people will question "Which console was the market leader in 7th gen consoles?" The answer will be PS3 and nobody will remember Wii or 360... that's how the history was made.

PS3 110-115 million coming at the end to be the best selling console this generation.

My prediction: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=150842


You might think so but I will look at software sales and will remeber how well Minecraft and other online titles sold on the 360 and the shear number of other online contend the 360 offered that was substantialy more then the PS3 and Wii combined and the clear winner in my book is and always will be the 360.  Software sales trump hardware sales because that's where the money is made.  Selling more hardware at a loss does not make you a winner.

360 software sales is inaccurate and unconfirmed... the PS3 and Wii not.

In any case PS3 will top the 360 sofware sales in one or two years.

Highly doubt that since the 360 is still outselling the PS3 in software also the PS3 will never come close to selling as much online content as the 360 because as I said before the 360 has more online content then the PS3 and Wii combined and the 360 is strongest in NA where people buy the most online content.  The clear software winner (online and physical) will always be the 360.  One think I agree with you is that the 360 software sales numbers are inaccurate since they are untertracked by at least 10 million units but probably more.



ethomaz on 05 March 2013
pezus said:

To be honest, yes.

More like:

FY2012: 77m
FY2013: 86-86.5m (9m shipped - 9.5m if we're optimistic)
FY2014: 93-93.5m (6m shipped)
FY2015: 96.5-97m (3.5m shipped)
FY2017: 98-99m (1.5-2.5m shipped)



77 million shipped in FY2012 (March) give us 13 million... even if you use a 25% drop for the next fiscal you will have ~10 million shipped but VGC is undertracking PS3 because all the sources shows only a ~15% drop for the year... so I guess 11-12 million is a good bet for FY2013.

Mummelmann on 05 March 2013

About to win? No, not really, they're about 26 million units away from the leader (which is still a moving target, allbeit a slow moving one) and still haven't taken second place in the race. Will they eventually reach the highest lifetime sales? Maybe, its hard to tell, but they're not about to win the way I see it.
Besides, its long past the time where it matters.