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Forums - Gaming - You Can't Build A PS4: Why Sony's Next Console Is Truly Next-Gen And Your PC Isn't

ethomaz said:

He is right in a lot of points...

- A super high-end PC is more powerful than PS4? Yes... PC will destroy the PS4.
- A PC hardware similar to PS4 give you the same performance? No. PS4 will destroy the PC with similar hardware.
- The PS4 at $400 will have better performance than a $1000 PC? Yes... it is.

To have the same perforamance than PS4 you will need a Intel Core i5/i7 + 8GB RAM + GTX 680/HD 7970... anything below that will have less performance than a PS4 IMO.

Can't you get all that for under $1000?

EDIT: The article is BS, by the way.



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Trunkin said:

Can't you get all that for under $1000?

I don't know...

Core i5: $200-250
GTX 680: $500-550
Moterboard: $50-100
HDD: $50
DDR3: $50-100
Other: $50-100
Win8: ?

I think to make a good PC for gaming with better performance than PS4 you will need at least $1000.

PS. Most article I saw comparing PS4 and PC forget the case, motherboard, HDD, fans, cooler, windows (Linux have no gamez), joystick, etc...



ethomaz said:

Trunkin said:

Can't you get all that for under $1000?

I don't know...

Core i5: $200-250
GTX 680: $500-550
Moterboard: $50-100
HDD: $50
DDR3: $50-100
Other: $50-100
Win8: ?

I think to make a good PC for gaming with better performance than PS4 you will need at least $1000.

PS. Most article I saw comparing PS4 and PC forget the case, motherboard, HDD, fans, cooler, windows (Linux have no gamez), joystick, etc...

 

Damn, I didn't realize the GTX 680 was that expensive. I guess the one I saw for $400 must've actually been on sale.

Windows 8 is $90 from Tiger Direct, btw. There's the cost of the PSU as well... I dunno how many extra case fans you need for a 680, but, from what I've seen, they're pretty cheap($9). Cases practically always seem to be on sale, too, and a wired 360 controller will set you back around $20. 

$1000 isn't all that much to spend for a quality PC, imo.

 



J_Allard said:
His mistake is in comparing raw specs and guts in the console to what you can get on a PC. Hardware in a console is not the same as hardware in a PC, developers on consoles have pretty much direct access to the entire power of the hardware and they are not designed the same way.

Can you get that exact same setup as a PS4 in a PC? No, it's not possible. Can you get other things to accomplish the same performance? Yes. It just won't do it the way a PS4 (or any console) does.

Outdated thinking. Your idea was true when consoles basically ONLY played games. Consoles are getting more like PC's in that they perform many functions and have a larger OS running in the background. The hardware has to perform so many more tasks nowadays, so that console performance leap from lower specs just ain't gonna happen like it did in the good old days, when consoles JUST played games. Yes there is a performance boost, but it's getting smaller and smaller.



Trunkin said:

Damn, I didn't realize the GTX 680 was that expensive. I guess the one I saw for $400 must've actually been on sale.

Windows 8 is $90 from Tiger Direct, btw. There's the cost of the PSU as well... I dunno how many extra case fans you need for a 680, but, from what I've seen, they're pretty cheap($9). Cases practically always seem to be on sale, too, and a wired 360 controller will set you back around $20. 

$1000 isn't all that much to spend for a quality PC, imo.

The most cheaper GTX 680 I found in www.newegg.com was $460... the avg is $500.

I think you can make a PC with $800 to show to tie with PS4 but to go over that it needed to spend a a little more... so over $1000 is just a just a way to say.



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ethomaz said:

Trunkin said:

Damn, I didn't realize the GTX 680 was that expensive. I guess the one I saw for $400 must've actually been on sale.

Windows 8 is $90 from Tiger Direct, btw. There's the cost of the PSU as well... I dunno how many extra case fans you need for a 680, but, from what I've seen, they're pretty cheap($9). Cases practically always seem to be on sale, too, and a wired 360 controller will set you back around $20. 

$1000 isn't all that much to spend for a quality PC, imo.

The most cheaper GTX 680 I found in www.newegg.com was $460... the avg is $500.

I think you can make a PC with $800 to show to tie with PS4 but to go over that it needed to spend a a little more... so over $1000 is just a just a way to say.

I guess, if gaming is your main concern, then consoles do offer the best value, for now. If you wanna do other stuff, though,(and you don't already have a capable system) getting a high-end PC instead is the way to go. And, of course, there're the indie games, mods, and the promise of Half-life 3. Easily worth the extra $500+ dollars. ;)



yes a pc is more expensive but i can use it for other stuff as well which means i have no problem to pay more for a pc as for a console. it would be a bad joke if a console would cost as much as a pc with same capabilities in gaming. and i seriously know no one who doesn't use his gaming pc for other stuff as well.

then we should build a gaming pc on the day of ps4 release and not 9 months earlier. why should i compare today's pc price with a future price of something else? sure, prices won't change too much but they will change.

if we just talk about the games available on a console and pc, i have to pay less for the game on pc. if i buy 20 multi-plat games on pc instead of console in the next 5 years, i have already spent minimum 300 euro less because of the lower price. not to talk about some totally different genres which are just better on pc.

but what i don't really understand, console gamers complain so much about pc guys comparing pc with console but they do that as well all the time if they think their console looks good in the comparison^^

everyone just has to agree that pc+console is the best





I think my life will be next year...

+ PS4
+ PS Vita
+ iPad (5?) or MacBook Air (2014?) * not decided yet
+ iPhone (5S?)

(PS. I will hold my Samsumg 51" D8000 HDTV for more two or three years)

No need PC.



ethomaz said:

I think my life will be next year...

+ PS4
+ PS Vita
+ iPad (5?) or MacBook Air (2014?) * not decided yet
+ iPhone (5S?)

(PS. I will hold my Samsumg 51" D8000 HDTV for more two or three years)

No need PC.

funny that you pay so much for electronics and graphics are that important for you (at least it seems like that when you talk about ps4) but you won't build a gaming rig and probably didn't have one the last years even with games on console with only 720p and 30fps.



I don't get why you would compare them anyway and it's getting pretty annoying to be honest



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