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Forums - Gaming - You Can't Build A PS4: Why Sony's Next Console Is Truly Next-Gen And Your PC Isn't

walsufnir on 01 March 2013
superchunk said:
Pointless OP is pointless.

1) of course no current PC will be identical because its custom design.
2) but that distinction is pointless because the parts used are MOBILE VARIANTS and are by default lower-spec'd components.


One thing to add: Of course no current PC is identical as AMD just hasn't released the hardware yet ;) This argument could only count if PS4 would be available by *now*. According to media Jaguar will be already available in the first half of 2013. It is only a matter of time until we can build our own next-gen-system (leave aside the RAM, of course, which nobody needs in a normal PC).



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Kasz216 on 01 March 2013
walsufnir said:
The article is mostly nonsense but either way, certain PCs were stronger than PS4, are stronger and they will be. By now AMD is already researching and developing the next iteration of their APUs which will be even more power-efficient and powerful than what is to be used in PS4/NextBox. Both only take a snapshot hardware from a long-term evolution that AMD follows.
One disadvantage the new consoles have: the performance is now easily compared to usual PCs and I expect a lot of discussions between console gamers and PC gamers in the next years. Well, we will see.
The main difference consoles alwasy had (to me) is that the games make the difference and I expect this to be very true with Sony. What strategy MS follows has yet to be seen but I won't be surprised by anything because I think they want a seemless integration of Windows 8 across all platforms which could turn out bad for Xbox-exclusives (meaning they could only be console-exclusive).

I dunno.  Aren't console APU's generally stronger then PC APU's because well... nobody really uses APU's outside of Laptops.

APU's just coming in storebrand PC's that quickly get replaced by GPU's? 

I think the AMD Jaguars are going to be 4 core instead of 8.



walsufnir on 01 March 2013
Kasz216 said:
walsufnir said:
The article is mostly nonsense but either way, certain PCs were stronger than PS4, are stronger and they will be. By now AMD is already researching and developing the next iteration of their APUs which will be even more power-efficient and powerful than what is to be used in PS4/NextBox. Both only take a snapshot hardware from a long-term evolution that AMD follows.
One disadvantage the new consoles have: the performance is now easily compared to usual PCs and I expect a lot of discussions between console gamers and PC gamers in the next years. Well, we will see.
The main difference consoles alwasy had (to me) is that the games make the difference and I expect this to be very true with Sony. What strategy MS follows has yet to be seen but I won't be surprised by anything because I think they want a seemless integration of Windows 8 across all platforms which could turn out bad for Xbox-exclusives (meaning they could only be console-exclusive).

I dunno.  Aren't console APU's generally stronger then PC APU's because well... nobody really uses APU's outside of Laptops.

APU's just coming in storebrand PC's that quickly get replaced by GPU's? 

Oh, at first I was talking about PCs in general. Easy that PCs were, are and will be stronger than PS4 (certain ones, of course).

But when talking about APUs my point was that AMD will continue to develop them so it is certain that they will overtake nextgen-APUs later. And don't forget that AMD has to push performance to build a market of their own so that Intel won't have the ability to counter which will be a tough task to AMD. Of course nextgen's APUs are by now better than what is available now but this is just what we can see - a snapshot of a long-term strategy of AMD.



GameAnalyser on 01 March 2013

The author himself admitted his mistake in another article
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/02/26/ps4-vs-pc-where-the-wild-things-are/?fb_action_ids=10151261229317161&fb_action_types=forbessocial%3Acomment&fb_source=aggregation&fb_aggregation_id=288381481237582.
The PS4 APU is a beast for the moment however.



Rogerioandrade on 01 March 2013

Not that much. PC are constantly evolving and it won´t be long until PS4 can be surpassed in processing power and performance by a PC. That´s just plain true.



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justinian on 01 March 2013

I too hate these silly PC v console comparisons. It's damn obvious from sales of general games that people prefer the console over the PC for gaming. Not sure how pirating affect that figure these days.
The PC has all this power but do their graphically intense games sell as well as a console's?

Will online FPS fans prefer to play with a handful of other gamers on the PC or millions of others on a console?

Can a Windows 7 or 8 PC with only 256MB main RAM produce graphics like that of Uncharted3 or Killzone 3?
Can Windows 7 even boot up with that amount of memory?

A PC have no relative limit in terms of RAM. GPU and CPU power seem to be improved upon every couple months. A console is "locked in".







ethomaz on 01 March 2013

walsufnir said:

If a PC is easy to play with also highly depends on your personal knowledge and skills, also. Most PC users don't have decent knowledge and/or skills. They better stay at consoles.

I don't have problem with knowledge on PC... in fact I'm a PC developer... I just don't like the trouble with PC for games... it't a hobby and not a job.



walsufnir on 01 March 2013
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

If a PC is easy to play with also highly depends on your personal knowledge and skills, also. Most PC users don't have decent knowledge and/or skills. They better stay at consoles.

I don't have problem with knowledge on PC... in fact I'm a PC developer... I just don't like the trouble with PC for games... it't a hobby and not a job.


It was more meant in general, I just picked your point to tell my experience when seeing others using Windows.