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Wright said:
Heavenly_King said:

The deep and complicated story MGS games are known for, gets transformed into a cheesy convoluted piece of crap.  The camera sucks, and the stealth mechanics are out of place.


The stealth mechanics are indeed out of place xD But I would not say this game was stealth-oriented.

 

It's ok. I can understand people not liking this game. But I do think the story was great, for what it was. The story is convoluted; so was MGS4 story, yet that one was praised. I'm not trying to justify anything, I'm just stating that, as a MGS fan, I did like Rising's story.

My reply has spoilers, so highlight it :D:

Sam, have almost no upgrades, and yet he was able to defeat the dude that killed Vamp, the dude that stopped and Arsenal Gear, the dude that can throw a Metal Gear Ray through the skies. HOW THE HELL IS ThaT POSSIBLE?! It makes look all the achievements Snake and Raiden did in previous games like if they were nothing, like they were a walk in the park, when they obviously were not.  "Oh look, the hero is so badass that can do this, this and that, and yet he gets almost killed by some random dude in the street DAFAQ?  That is very wrong dude.  Reminds of how Superman gets beaten by every evil dude, even though he is indestructible, invencible, ultrapowerful, etc.  IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.    And the last boss looks like taken from Splatterhouse, and not Metal Gear.   MG games always have great character design, and this case the boss is a senator with nanomachines? FOR REAL?



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Make it a promise Kojima... if there is a sequel and PG isn't making it.. I will hunt you down and slice your balls off when you are taking a piss at a Starbucks while you are waiting for your Coffee Frappuccino® Light Blended Beverage..



 

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Rafux said:
hunter_alien said:
KHlover said:
hunter_alien said:
KHlover said:
Platinum is just the King of HnS right now. Excited for what's to come on all consoles^^


That title goes to Sony Santa Monica, and whoever is saying otherwise is simply hating on them. Hell I would argue that Ninja Theory is sharing second with Platinum.

I still havent played MGR, but seeing how overrated Bayonetta was, I doubt I will give it a try anytime soon, especially seeing how huge my backlog is (and that includes the MGS HD collection).

Edit: almost forgot Mercury Steam... so yeah, in best case they can take 3rd

Thank you for respecting my opinion...

Bayonetta > God of War IMO


Well Im sorry if I offend you, but you either havent played both games, you like oversexualized japanese fantasy stories or you simply havent played HnS games for long enough to know what a trully balanced gameplay experience means.

Castlevania, GoW and even the latest DmC are far more polished gameplay wise then Bayonetta.

Allas, I still have to play MGR, so I will keep my judgement about the game for later...

Bayonetta, DMC4 and Ninja Gaiden 1 are the holy trinity of HnS GAMEPLAY.

I love GOW but the combat mechanics are shallow compared to the holy trinity, in GOW you can win most fights just pressing the triangle button. I play GOW for its grand cinematic epic adventure not for its combat. My 2 cents.

 

Yes, Ninja Gaiden, almos forgot about that one, even tough Im playing it again (Sigma +). But to be honest, it is not as refined as DMC and GoW. I never fully utilized the combo lists and still managed to beat the game, and by far the hardest challenge was the camera system. I could get used to the jumping mechanics, but the camera was PSone generation platformer level, so it was horrendous . Also, even tough DMC 4 was great, it simply couldent hold my interest as long as DMC 3, the DMC that I still consider the best.

GoW is simple, and accessible, but it should not be confused with easy. Playing on harder difficulty levels can trully test your metal, in some cases it can get closer to NG level. It does not have the massive combo list and pretty much no openess in level design, but it is one amazing experience

I dont know why Bayonetta never caught me at all. Maybe it was because I played it after GoW 3 was released, and I pretty much went trough the 2 portable GoWs, 3 and DMC4, and I was a bit exhausted of the genre at that moment. Or maybe the fact that I played the tachnically inferior (PS3) version also had something to do with it. Never the less neither the gameply or the setting caught my attention, tough it has the potential to be good on the WiiU if they actually utilize the system to its fullest.



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Heavenly_King said:
Wright said:
Heavenly_King said:

The deep and complicated story MGS games are known for, gets transformed into a cheesy convoluted piece of crap.  The camera sucks, and the stealth mechanics are out of place.


The stealth mechanics are indeed out of place xD But I would not say this game was stealth-oriented.

 

It's ok. I can understand people not liking this game. But I do think the story was great, for what it was. The story is convoluted; so was MGS4 story, yet that one was praised. I'm not trying to justify anything, I'm just stating that, as a MGS fan, I did like Rising's story.

My reply has spoilers, so highlight it :D:

Sam, have almost no upgrades, and yet he was able to defeat the dude that killed Vamp, the dude that stopped and Arsenal Gear, the dude that can throw a Metal Gear Ray through the skies. HOW THE HELL IS ThaT POSSIBLE?! It makes look all the achievements Snake and Raiden did in previous games like if they were nothing, like they were a walk in the park, when they obviously were not.  "Oh look, the hero is so badass that can do this, this and that, and yet he gets almost killed by some random dude in the street DAFAQ?  That is very wrong dude.  Reminds of how Superman gets beaten by every evil dude, even though he is indestructible, invencible, ultrapowerful, etc.  IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.    And the last boss looks like taken from Splatterhouse, and not Metal Gear.   MG games always have great character design, and this case the boss is a senator with nanomachines? FOR REAL?


My reply also have spoilers (Of MGS4 and MGS2).

Sam, having no upgrades whatsoever, managed to defeat the same guy that could stop Outer Heaven with one hand; yet he was the same guy that was unable to free his arm when a pile of debris fell on his arm. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE ANYWAY. And also, Vamp had his nanomachines off thanks to Snake. And, that's right. A senator with nanomachines. That's crazy, isn't it? Almost like an United States President with robot arms as a final boss! =P



KHlover said:
hunter_alien said:
KHlover said:
hunter_alien said:
KHlover said:
hunter_alien said:
KHlover said:
Platinum is just the King of HnS right now. Excited for what's to come on all consoles^^


That title goes to Sony Santa Monica, and whoever is saying otherwise is simply hating on them. Hell I would argue that Ninja Theory is sharing second with Platinum.

I still havent played MGR, but seeing how overrated Bayonetta was, I doubt I will give it a try anytime soon, especially seeing how huge my backlog is (and that includes the MGS HD collection).

Edit: almost forgot Mercury Steam... so yeah, in best case they can take 3rd

Thank you for respecting my opinion...

Bayonetta > God of War IMO


Well Im sorry if I offend you, but you either havent played both games, you like oversexualized japanese fantasy stories or you simply havent played HnS games for long enough to know what a trully balanced gameplay experience means.

Castlevania, GoW and even the latest DmC are far more polished gameplay wise then Bayonetta.

Allas, I still have to play MGR, so I will keep my judgement about the game for later...

It takes more than a comment about HnS games to offend me :D

And you might be right with the balancing, I play HnS games more for the setting and story than the actual gameplay (which is still important to some degree). Since you seem to know more about HnS than me, would you recommend me DmC (the reboot) or Dante's Inferno more? I'm quite interested in Dante's Inferno's setting (I've actually read the book and am interested in how they interpreted it), but what I've seen about the game so far seemed to be pretty dull. DmC has a cool artstyle IMO but I'm absolutely not familiar with the story. 

Which one should it be?


Well I only played DmC a bit thus far, and I can already tell you that I like it more than DI from a gameplay perspective. Im not acustomed to the 360 controller, and played it on a 360, but I got the hang of it fast. DI was a visually pretty good game, I liked how the look of the game changed as you progressed, but it was a bit short, and IMO it is a decent modern interpretation of the poem and I would deffinatly like a sequel. Yes, the ending was rushed, and I couldent totally get over the ripoff feeling, but even so it was good, hell even the PSP version is enjoyable.

But seeing that DI can be bought for 5$ at the bargain bin, you cant go wrong Also seeing the sales of DmC I would wait for a couple of months to pick it up at the same low price

Haha, thank you. I'd have waited either way, Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for WiiU and 3DS is going to rip a hole in my gaming budget this month :D

I know what MH means when you buy a new one. Be carefull for the sake of your social life, I know I let myslef carried away ("Just one more gathering run, and then I go to sleep" my ass ).



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Deyon said:
Metal Gear Rising is awesome, reviewers can go F**K them selfs.

Yes, good to hear it's getting the success it deserves despite GamrReview's sad attempt to bring it down. The gameplay sure lacks polish but I'm having a blast with atm. Excellent action game on the top of being a true Metal Gear.



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zero129 said:
Heavenly_King said:

great for him, because for me, even though I love MGS, it sucks.

The deep and complicated story MGS games are known for, gets transformed into a cheesy convoluted piece of crap.  The camera sucks, and the stealth mechanics are out of place.

You mean none of the other MGS games was "Cheesy" at any point O_o , have we even played the same MGS games? cos MGS is full of chess


Judging by the demo, this game takes it to a whole new level. Not that i mind.



zero129 said:
Heavenly_King said:

great for him, because for me, even though I love MGS, it sucks.

The deep and complicated story MGS games are known for, gets transformed into a cheesy convoluted piece of crap.  The camera sucks, and the stealth mechanics are out of place.

You mean none of the other MGS games was "Cheesy" at any point O_o , have we even played the same MGS games? cos MGS is full of chess

mmm....well, this one has EXTRA Cheesse, and the bad thing is that it is not pizza D:.



zero129 said:
Heavenly_King said:
zero129 said:
Heavenly_King said:

great for him, because for me, even though I love MGS, it sucks.

The deep and complicated story MGS games are known for, gets transformed into a cheesy convoluted piece of crap.  The camera sucks, and the stealth mechanics are out of place.

You mean none of the other MGS games was "Cheesy" at any point O_o , have we even played the same MGS games? cos MGS is full of chess

mmm....well, this one has EXTRA Cheesse, and the bad thing is that it is not pizza D:.

Well true i do like my cheese on pizza xD, but really dude to me all the MGS games are kinda chessey, cant really comment on this one as i have not played it yet and dont plan to anytime soon unless they launch it on PC. (Yes im still Pissed that Plat canceled the PC version -_- )

I recommend it! =D DON'T TRUST HEAVENLY, TRUST ME INSTEAD! (????)