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hsrob on 07 March 2013

There is no actual metric by which you can measure graphical improvement. Game developers (experts) opinion differs on the graphical improvement on display. Those ARE facts. Ergo, your statements are actually wrong, or simply an opinion, you choose.



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Hynad on 07 March 2013
hsrob said:

There is no actual metric by which you can measure graphical improvement. Game developers (experts) opinion differs on the graphical improvement on display. Those ARE facts. Ergo, your statements are actually wrong, or simply an opinion, you choose.


There are clues that allow us to give a rather good estimate.  The PS4's GPU has 18 compute units that collectively produce 1.84 Tflops of computing power versus PS3's ~400 Gflops. Coupled with the CPU, the computer power goes over 2 teraflops. The 176GB/s of memory bandwidth is 3.7 times the bandwdth of the Cell + RSX. The 8GB of GDDR5 memory is 16 times the amount in the PS3.

You don't need to look that far, in fact. Just take the rough specs of the GPU's both console used, PS3's RSX based on GeForce 7800 series, against the PS4 Radeon 7800 series based GPU, and you can have a decent picture of what the leap actually is.

Not everything is subjective.  But ok, if you want to argue, maybe the leap isn't 10 times last gen, maybe it's 9 times. Or maybe 11. One thing is sure though, it is similar to the leap from PS2 to PS3 based on specs alone.



Mazty on 07 March 2013
IsawYoshi said:
Impressive indeed, but it isn't mind-blowing (at least mine is intact)

But the ps4 is tempting.


Considering the cost it'd take a lot of gamers to get UE4 ready, at the right price point the PS4 could simply be a bargin. Sadly the UE4 demo was far inferior to the GTX680 demo, but if by E3 they can optimise it enough to be able to play the full demo on the PS4, I certainly will be getting the PS4 as it's cheaper than getting a new mobo, RAM, CPU and GPU (and I'm running a GTX560Ti so it's not like an archaic turd). 



hsrob on 07 March 2013

@Hynad (my phone won't let me quote)
You've hit upon the crux of my point, technical advancement is a tangible, measurable thing, graphical improvement is not. A ten fold increase in processing does not equate to ten times better graphics. I'm not arguing the numbers, I'm arguing that the numbers are not born out in the graphical improvements we can see.

This has nothing to do with Sony, it will be same for all systems that follow.



gigaSheik on 07 March 2013

If you own a Wii you should be used to have your mind blown by now from a graphic point of view.



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darkknightkryta on 07 March 2013
Mazty said:
IsawYoshi said:
Impressive indeed, but it isn't mind-blowing (at least mine is intact)

But the ps4 is tempting.


Considering the cost it'd take a lot of gamers to get UE4 ready, at the right price point the PS4 could simply be a bargin. Sadly the UE4 demo was far inferior to the GTX680 demo, but if by E3 they can optimise it enough to be able to play the full demo on the PS4, I certainly will be getting the PS4 as it's cheaper than getting a new mobo, RAM, CPU and GPU (and I'm running a GTX560Ti so it's not like an archaic turd). 

The biggest loss was textures, but that was before the surprise announcement.  I'm sure Unreal 4 will be up to par now.



Mazty on 07 March 2013
darkknightkryta said:
Mazty said:
IsawYoshi said:
Impressive indeed, but it isn't mind-blowing (at least mine is intact)

But the ps4 is tempting.


Considering the cost it'd take a lot of gamers to get UE4 ready, at the right price point the PS4 could simply be a bargin. Sadly the UE4 demo was far inferior to the GTX680 demo, but if by E3 they can optimise it enough to be able to play the full demo on the PS4, I certainly will be getting the PS4 as it's cheaper than getting a new mobo, RAM, CPU and GPU (and I'm running a GTX560Ti so it's not like an archaic turd). 

The biggest loss was textures, but that was before the surprise announcement.  I'm sure Unreal 4 will be up to par now.

Oh yeah considering the impressive specs of the console, I imagine it could easily run as well as a GTX680 when optimisation and everything else is considered. Honestly I was skeptical about the consoles being UE4 ready but the PS4 really did impress me. 



teigaga on 07 March 2013
ethomaz said:
Lafiel said:
ethomaz said:
- The PS4 to PS3 graphical leap is bigger than PS3 to PS2.

I'm not sure about that one. I'm halfway through God of War 1 HD (thx PS+) and compared to the God of War 3 demo I played a while back the graphical leap is really really big.

While to me Killzone:SF looks like a clear graphical leap to KZ2, I think at a first glance it is less obvious than that one, but well I don't own KZ2 (I'm judging by videos and demos here) and KZ:SF is far from being released.

Personally I'm more excited about the general image quality being crisper due to 1080p and areas hopefully becoming bigger and more interactive next gen.
GoW 3 is not a launch title for PS3... it was a half-gen title... you need the next Killzone to make a comparison like GW3 to GoW1... Next Killzone vs Killzone 2.

The fact is the first titles showed to PS3 was close or only a little better than the latest PS2 titles (some was worst)... the PS3 first title was already better than the PS3 one.

There is a big graphical leap here.

Playstation 3 launch title  lol





ethomaz on 07 March 2013

curl-6 said:

PS3 had games in its launch window further beyond PS2 than any PS4 game shown so far is ahead of PS3, I'd say. It's still early days, true, but going from what we've seen so far, Deep Down and Shadowfall aren't as big a leap over God of War Ascension and The Last of Us as say, Motorstorm was over Gran Turismo 4.

As for Wii U, I wouldn't say it's any closer to PS3/360 than Wii was to the Gamecube 4 months into its life; it wasn't until Metroid Prime 3 and Mario Galaxy that the Wii really separated itself from its predecessor graphically.

GT4 looks on pair or better than Motorstorm IMO.

The comparision below is not the first games for PS3 (that was way way way way worst than Killzon 2).



radiantshadow92 on 07 March 2013

anyone using kilzone sf as an example of next gen graphics please stop lol...it was a trailer of a game in production utilizing only half the ram capable on the ps4 AND its one of the first games on the system. can the ps4 be a bigger leap then this gen? we dont fucking know yet.