The fact is we could make a list of faults and criticism's some objective some subjective about  Sony MS and Nintendo but what does it accomplish , wouldn't it be much better to talk about what you would like to see from them in the future and if you must criticize give answers to that criticism.

What promises has MS broken? If MS doesn't care what gamers think, why does the xbox maintain momentum? As for casuals, recall Sony move and the suite of software targetting it.

microsoft may have made mistakes but so has every company. i agree, that microsoft seem to have easily gotten away with huge problems easier than other companies would have.

You mean the poll that doesn't require those that answer it to own or use an Xbox 360?

The poll should never have been added, it's 100% completely useless and should be ignored entirely.

Based on my experiences on this board and the typical sony criticisms,  I have a decent amounf of certainty that the Sony one was closer to trolling.  I'd like to see it, if you have a link.  I wouldn't want to assume. 

The only valid argument you have is the RROD. Microsoft abandoned the hardcore gamer?  Here is the equivalent list for the PS3:

1. Many people were suckered into a $599 game console that did little but play movies.

2. The blockbuster titles like Uncharted, Gran Turismo were few and far in between. The good games didn't come until a few years into the PS3's life cycle.

3.The Playstation network trophy system and Playstation Plus online services were whipped up at the last minute to try to lure back Xbox Live customers. The PSN hacking debacle was an epic PR disaster. It struck the company off guard and really made the company look clueless and foolish.

4. Sony gave up too many exclusives to Microsoft that made the PS2 and PS1 hits like Metal Gear, Final Fantasy, GTA games, and many, many other games.

5. Sony getting rid of backwards compatibility of PS2 games really did hurt them big time, which is part of the reason gamers were slow to adopt the PS3. There was no reason to buy a PS3 if people could still buy PS2 games. Sony failed to seal the deal with the PS3 and convince PS2 owners.

6. People were not fooled by the Playstation Move, which was obviously a Wii remote ripoff.

7. The Sixaxis controller was useless and it was scrapped for the Dualshock 3, and the Sony really needed to change that controller design. Even hardcore PS3 fans have to admit that the Xbox 360 controller was a better quality, more ergonomic controller.

8. Sony still beating a dead horse decides to release the PS3 Slim and Super Slim which was a backwards step in design, and degradations of the original and they tried to rehash past marketing efforts, lol. Microsoft answered back with their own "Slim" version which wasn't just a cheapened version of the original like the PS3 Slim but an all around better, sleeker, upgraded Xbox 360. 

Sony screwed up more and had more damage control measures this gen than Microsoft.

I would take the RROD over the exploding Sony Battery Fiasco any day of the week. :P

Fact of the matter is... All things mechanical and electrical are prone to fail, what's important is how these companies treat you in such a situation and to me Microsoft treated me well in getting my launch console repaired to the point even paying for the shipping and sending me a box to put it in.

However, I now have a Halo 4 edition slim console, so hoping it's problem free for many years to come and I won't think twice about getting an Xbox 720 and a Playstation 4 for the exclusives, the rest that are available on PC I'll get for that.

You're saying that about a console that's dominating the US and UK. That's a lot of people's opinions that don't agree with you :/

1. I totally understand it is a great business move for MS, I am just saying its not so good for the consumer, you know, US. There is a chance PS4 will adapt this mantra, which would really piss me off too. Yet I don't think they will have to because PS+ works off a different structure that is just as efficient. You see, PS+ offers value without feeling forced upon you. If anyone here has been to gamestop, they know about their "PowerUp" Membership. For a yearly fee you will get magazines, discounts, and exclusive promotions. Its not like you can't buy anything from them at all if you are not a member. This is an over dramatization but I am simply using this to demonstrate a point. You can perseude people to join through real value and not forcing their hand to such a degree. PS+ has supposedly tripled it's userbase since it's first year, which would put it at like 15-20million subscribers. That is right around how many subscribe to Live, and without blocking their ability to play online. Some developers have shown that they don't like this practice either. Netflix surely spite the fact someone wanting to use their service on 360 has to get past a paywall just to get to them. FFXIV would also be coming to 360, if not for the paywall.

2. Timed Exclusivity is such a farce tho, regardless of how ok with it you may be. Just cuz the 360 might get some DLC, or sometimes even a whole game for a few weeks before PS3.....I don't think that is reason enough for anyone to switch to one console or the next, it just irritates fans of said series.  Bioshock, Mass Effect being 360 exclusives, that would be reason to get that console. But not getting 360 just cuz it got those games a year early, shit I can wait, especially knowing the PS3 version of these games would become deluxe packages with bonus content, and we would find the 360 version was the PS3 version's "beta" in some cases. I just think the whole concept leaves a bad taste in gamer's mouths.

3.MS might be the wisest choice for some investors,but many investors flocked to the Wii and Guitar Hero after its huge success, then that market dynamic started to callapse and the people who screamed "fad" turned out to be right.

Western games sell better on 360, because they have the homefield advantage in many ways( just like Sony and Nintendo do in JP), there are still many games that do about even or better on PS3. RE6 sold way better on PS3 last time I checked, as did FFXIII. Baseball and Fifa titles sell butt tons more on PS3. Most Fighters like Blazeblue, Street Fighter, Tekken, Mortal Kombat, etc sell best on PS3. What it is is that some of the largest IPs sold better on 360, ones with heavy advertising that are totally byassed towards the 360 in the US (COD is almost exclusively advertised as a 360 game, FFXIII was too but that still couldn't dent the fact the fanbase was  mostly on PS3).

So really, without MS's strong marketing in the US for US centric games....well you get the picture. So the only reason the 360 would appear to be a better platform to debut a game would be if they were going to market it for them, otherwise its does nothing for the Dev. Also, from what I heard from industry ppl, Developers make more money from each PS3 game sold than they do 360. This is why companies like Ubisoft and EA exclaim they make most of their money on Playstation, even if the 360 version sells slightly better.

The poll reflects accurately on how the majority thinks about this subject.