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Do you still trust MS enough to get their Next Console?

Yes 265 34.06%
 
No 512 65.81%
 
Total:777

yep i agree with most of ur points. to this day i wanna play halo but i will not pay to play online. not for any system ever.



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animegaming said:
Wright said:
Sensei said:
No. Charging for online is the most ridiculous thing to ever happen in gaming.


You mean...supporting online is a ridiculous thing? Because now you can say good things about the Playstation Network, but things were very, very different before Microsoft pushed forward Live. I do, however, that in this day and age, they should drop the goddamm fee.


nintendo, sony, and steam let you play online for free M$ has no reason to 


Nintendo - different business model, different online services, different customer market (mostly). Q4 2012 net loss of $460 million.

Sony -  different business model, similar online services. Q3 2012 net loss of $114 million, continues to lose money in Q4 and beyond.

Steam - different market, different business model, not really related to console gaming.

Microsoft - Q4 2012 net profit of $6.38 billion.

 

If all companies continue at the same trend, which one(s) do you think are most likely to exist in the future?  Which company would you rather invest in? Which ones are most likely to be in the game industry in the future?

 

Now tell me which one of the above companies are most likely to change how they make money in the near future?

 

"Microsoft has no reason to." -  I can't stop laughing at that statement.



I prefer PlayStation over an XBox any day, but it really all comes down to preference between PS3 and 360. We have yet to even see MS's next console, so until then we can't really say much. We can only assume from rumors that have gone around. I believe MS will do better on next-gens console for sure though. They have learned from their mistakes, as well as Sony has learned from theirs.



I actually thought these threads were in good fun when I first saw the titles. I find that some take them actually seriously...a bit surprising really.



The poll should have had an later option , for those that might buy one later than they did with the 360 , if it meets their criteria.



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JayWood2010 said:

learn that people have preferences and opinions and stop shoving yours down others throats. Goodnight

I RECOMMEND PEOPLE NOT COMMENTING IN THIS THREAD AND LET IT DIE.  DONT FEED PEOPLE WHEN THEY MAKE THESE TYPE OF THREADS.  YOUR NOT GOING TO CHANGE HIS OPINION AND ALL THIS THREAD IS GOING TO BE IS ARGUEING AND HIM DEFENDING HIS REASONS.

This...

What you are listing as "issues" are totaly your own oppinion (and of course other people may have the same too).
And there is no point in arguiing with you (or anyone else who think the same) as nobody will change their mind over that.

The poll is pointless as Sony/Nintendo fans will simply vote No (as the majority already have a side)...

Seriously it is what?, 5 threads like that in 24 hours... The PS4 meeting woke a lot of people as I can see :)



forevercloud3000 said:

Microsoft did a great job lulling many a gamer in with what they originally offered. Yet, for the last 7 Years I have watched them pull one slick stunt after the next, and generally harm the sanctity of the industry multiple times over.

 

  • When the Original Xbox came out, I was interested. Games like Fable and Jade Empire almost had me. Yet I already had a PS2, wth FF and a hefty load of games that were exclusive to it. I decided I would wait to get the Xbox after it became much cheaper. When the New consoles were finally released I though this was my chance to snag one for a bargain......then it happened. MS officially cut off Xbox shortly after 360's release, this was in complete contrast to how the PS2 still thrived for several years, just like the PS1 did. The way it was immediately discontinued, most ofthe games were field destroyed, just erased....didn't sit well at all with me. I still feel like this is a mantra MS might still hold. More on that later....
  • RROD. MS ignored the many warnings they got from their tech experts to delay the 360's launch so they could figure out a more viable heat syncing solution. MS big wigs could have cared less, because beating Sony to the punch was truly all that mattered. A electronic device with over 40% failure rate that wasn't immediately pulled from market is unheard of. MS's solution to this was to give you a 3 yr warrenty(from LAUNCH and not buy date) where they would fix your console......just so it would break again a month later. In MS's defense, many bring up the PS2's higher than normal failure rate....yet that was small time in comparison really. It was only a rate of like 8%. While working at Gamestop, I watched people buy console after console simply because they kept breaking. When the main reason you chose one console over the next was due to it's low price yet the cost of replacing it comes out to way more.............priceless.
  • Timed Exclusivity: A ridiculous  trade off from real exclusivity if you ask me. I always felt full exclusive games encouraged the best kind of  competition. Mario's success would spur Crash, GT would ignite PGR/Forza, etc, etc. The fact that there are less exclusives these days means there is less reason to buy any particular console(which is what MS wanted) but it also means developers don't have to try nearly as hard to court a fanbase.....and most often, Multiplats feel like a poor man's exclusive Version.
  • Total Abandonment of the Hardcore Gamer in the last 3 years. MS has shown time and time again, that their fanbase is just a name and number. They are only as valuable as how much money they are bringing them. Now this isn't news to us about any business. Sony and Nintendo also want your hard earned dollar. Yet MS completely abandoned the groups that gave them their early success as they no longer needed to appeal to them, they already had you (like some douche college stud who sleeps around for the conquest and nothing more). Once they felt they had the "Hardcore Vote" already, the Hardcore centric games became scarce, and the new Casual push began. This is what 360 fans put up with out of complacency for the last 3 years. MS felt as long as they give their fans 2 key franchises a year(an alternation between Forza,Gears, Halo) that their fanbase would stay TAMED.
  • Charging for what everyone else give for free. We already pay a premium for the internet, why are you paying for a glorified "Membership" that gives you what you rightfully should of had for free? News Flash people, there is very little XboxLive does that PS3 doesn't, contrary to popular beleif. The only true feature of note is XGC.....an overhyped feature from those who are trying to justify that annual fee. Well come PS4 time, you will no longer have that excuse. Vita already has XGC, PS4 will allow it across multiple devices. PS+ is already garnering  far more appeal of late, with its constant sales, free game givaways, auto updates, exclusive betas/demos......on the regular! PS+ isn't required to get basic funtion out of your device, yet people are flocking to it for its REAL value it offers up to you.
  • Cheap scating to APPEAR cheaper. This baffled me when this gen started. Sure, the PS3 was 600 big ones, but in actuality the 360 was just around, if not more. Think about it. Original 360's were coming with no HDMI port, needed batteries for controllers(expensive rechargeable pack sold seperately), no Wifi Built in (When even the damn Wii did), and of course required a Live Sub to play online. Oh but it came with a headset tho....... The system was built around you buying what appears to be a real bargain in comparison to the competition, then get you on the 50million peripherals that will at some point become a necessity.
Someone Please explain to me, after knowing all this, how could MS's efforts be more appealing than Sony or Nintendo's at this point?

 

Disclaimer: As you all already know, Yes I am a big Sony fan. I don't think this invalidates me from asking a reasonable question though. you should understand that this is obviously a person looking over from one side of the fence and the impression I get from what I see. The whole reason of asking this is that maybe there is a quirk or facet to them that I am not seeing and would like to understand where it derives from.

My only question is why are all these types of articles that are against Xbox & Wii /Wii U written by Sony supporters?  How about complaining about your own system instead...there is plenty to complain about.



senseless topic. You are a fan of something else and have your reasons for it. End of topic.
There are people with different views and tastes and they clearly can post something similar about Sony, Nintendo, Valve, Samsung, whatever, and those lists would be as justified as this one but no need to "discuss" about it.



JayWood2010 said:


It's ok, he told me because this one is serious it is allowed.  Sounds like horrible modding to me.

I honestly feel like we should be able to vote mods out of there power because this is pathetic modding.

No, dictatorships always work the best.



NintendoPie said:
JayWood2010 said:


It's ok, he told me because this one is serious it is allowed.  Sounds like horrible modding to me.

I honestly feel like we should be able to vote mods out of there power because this is pathetic modding.

No, dictatorships always work the best.


You just reminded me of this =D :

http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/funny/Dictator/isYnGvf/