It's funny how people think investors are stupid. They're quite smart, actually.

They know Sony can't sell the PS4 at a profitable price while also obtaining reasonable market share in the 8th generation. It's either they sell it at a profitable price and get crappy market share, or they sell it at a loss and get higher market share (and who knows if it will even be good market share, even taking a loss. Look at Vita).

Sony might be forced to actually remove features to bring the price of PS4 down. Then people wll be more pissed than ever. They're in a very bad spot, to be quite honest.

This exact situation is probably what Nintendo was banking on the entire time with Wii U. I'm sure they didn't believe the market was ready for a true 8th gen console yet without throwing away money to sell the damn thing.

You clearly know nothing. Its nothing at all like the PS3. Its got developer support because its easy to develop for. The PS3 was the exact opposite. Its also not giving the competition, Microsoft, 12-16 Months headstart due to releasing this Year.

There are already over 80 developers making games for it. Some are making multiple games for it. It doesnt matter if theyre exclusive, because thats why Sony invested so much in 1st party development during the last 5 Years. They have a new deal with the biggest publisher on the planet, Activision, and continued good relationships with EA and Ubisoft.

On top of that, theyre also not releasing with a gimped, gimmicky controller. This is a superior upgrade, not a six-axis failure. Oh, and they have a top quality online system with PSN thats getting better as the day goes by... Not like the PSN of 06-07, which was terrible.

It is, but only when it's about Sony. I got banned a day because I stated the obvious that Sony Fanboys ignore facts that counter their original view of the PS4 and 
Wii U (PS4 can't handle a FPS at 60 FPS, which is unacceptable for a next-gen console). But now this 'doesn't matter because good graphics'. They also don't want to believe this thread.

I also see alot of Nintendo-bashing and unrealistic doomed-threads based on nothing but hate, but nothing happens to them right VgChartz?

Market wide change of 2% with a smelly fart, or changes in an individual stock only? Either would be impressive, but marketwide variations of that scale would be quite amazing!

its because nintendo doesn't have to compete with consoles that are twice as cheap as the wii u any more.

phenom08 said: Carl2291 said: Youve been on a bit of a roll with your Sony/Nintendo threads since PS4 announcement. Whats up? This particular blip is meh. Im surprised by it though. Id have thought it would be the opposite. The PlayStation 4, a console that none of us have actually seen, already has better third party support than the Wii U. Developers are onboard. Thats what matters in the long run. Innovative new controls, improved DualShock, development ease, games that graphically blow everything away and a release window. Sony are onto a winner Thats what you saw, what investors saw was PS3 situation once again. Which wasnt good for investors lol. Expensive price tag and none of those games will push hardware lol. What exactly is your proof of better 3rd party support by the way? Destiny? Final Fantasy? The ports? Neither was announced as exclusive and both will probably be on 360/PS3. That wont help PS4 at all lol.

Ya because we all know the exact price ps4 will be.   They won't to that again and investors can't be so stupid to believe it.  If the ps4 is $600  with these specs then what will the nexbox be priced at with equal specs and supposedly kinect 2 bundled in with it?  The least sony will go is $400 and the most they should go is $500. 

If Nintendo have a brain, that's what they'll do. A Zelda like that would draw in tons of core gamers who have moved on from Nintendo. One that looks like Skyward Sword or Wind Waker would only alienate them further.

You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

But profit is profit, and Nintendo will profit on all of their console sales from next year onwards.

DaRev said: Mummelmann said: Sony is d0med, Nintendo is saved, glad we got that out of the system! DaRev; "faffing about", are you Yahtzee Croshaw? my boss is English, so I hear a lot of these strange phrases. i'm dying to use "spit the dummy" lol.

That's why I love British smack talk, it sound sophisticated and rude all at once, one can almost imagine the Queen herself using these phrases!

"Spit the dummy" is golden!

nnodley said: phenom08 said: Carl2291 said: Youve been on a bit of a roll with your Sony/Nintendo threads since PS4 announcement. Whats up? This particular blip is meh. Im surprised by it though. Id have thought it would be the opposite. The PlayStation 4, a console that none of us have actually seen, already has better third party support than the Wii U. Developers are onboard. Thats what matters in the long run. Innovative new controls, improved DualShock, development ease, games that graphically blow everything away and a release window. Sony are onto a winner Thats what you saw, what investors saw was PS3 situation once again. Which wasnt good for investors lol. Expensive price tag and none of those games will push hardware lol. What exactly is your proof of better 3rd party support by the way? Destiny? Final Fantasy? The ports? Neither was announced as exclusive and both will probably be on 360/PS3. That wont help PS4 at all lol. Ya because we all know the exact price ps4 will be.   They won't to that again and investors can't be so stupid to believe it.  If the ps4 is $600  with these specs then what will the nexbox be priced at with equal specs and supposedly kinect 2 bundled in with it?  The least sony will go is $400 and the most they should go is $500.

The economy is worse than what it was when the PS3 launched at $600. Video game consoles likely can't be more than $300 in this generation, or else it just scares consumers away.