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NintendoPie on 20 February 2013
crissindahouse said:
NintendoPie said:
I thought we all knew that MS was the devil?

i would love to work for microsoft if i would have to choose between some companies, they often get a lot of praise as employee friendly company if i'm not wrong.

That's how they pull you in. 



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NightDragon83 on 20 February 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
007BondAgent said:
i don't think Microsoft is as bad as they are made up to be, so this deal was just sony trying to find the next call of duty


What? Sony was always going to get destiny. They just decided to announce it live for the PS4. Microsoft paid off Activision to get the game first though. Its sad really, because Microsoft does not allow for timed exclusives to come on the Xbox 360. All games that are multiplatform must come to them first. They are hypocrites to the tenth degree.

No, they're good businessmen, 'tis all.  Funny how we didn't hear a peep from the Sony crowd when the biggest game of last gen, GTAIII, was a PS2 exclusive for two years after $ony signed an agreement with Take Two. (the original deal was to keep GTA exclusive through 2004, so effectively all 3 GTA games would've been released as PS2-exclusives.)



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

S.T.A.G.E. on 20 February 2013
NightDragon83 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
007BondAgent said:
i don't think Microsoft is as bad as they are made up to be, so this deal was just sony trying to find the next call of duty


What? Sony was always going to get destiny. They just decided to announce it live for the PS4. Microsoft paid off Activision to get the game first though. Its sad really, because Microsoft does not allow for timed exclusives to come on the Xbox 360. All games that are multiplatform must come to them first. They are hypocrites to the tenth degree.

No, they're good businessmen, 'tis all.  Funny how we didn't hear a peep from the Sony crowd when the biggest game of last gen, GTAIII, was a PS2 exclusive for two years after $ony signed an agreement with Take Two. (the original deal was to keep GTA exclusive through 2004, so effectively all 3 GTA games would've been released as PS2-exclusives.)


Does Sony have a policy against timed exclusives coming to them late? No. They just stated that they expect extra content in late ports. Microsoft are hypocrites, they will refuse the game if they dont get multiplats at the same time. 



EspadaGrim on 20 February 2013
BlkPaladin said:
EspadaGrim said:
animegaming said:
after halo 3 bungie wanted to make a new IP but M$ still wanted them to make halo


Give me proof instead of mking stuff up.

It was rumored after Halo 2 that Bungie didn't want to make another Halo after the second one but Microsoft wanted a game for the 360. Which "explained" the abrupt ended to Halo 2. The Wikipedia article on Halo 3 even made reference to fact that most of Halo 3 was stuff that was orginally made to be add on for Halo 2.  It is mostly rumor around that time and old rumors are really hard to reference and find online.

It was meant to be a trilogy after the success of the first Halo.



Horrorfest on 20 February 2013
EspadaGrim said:
Horrorfest said:

I've heard it from Bungie before how they hated being limited to only making one franchise and how microsoft rejected their ideas and basically treated them like slaves. I'm pretty sure Sony must have given up a bit of cash for this but I think this is really Bungie getting back at Microsoft for how they treated them. I'm a PlayStation guy and I don't blame Bungie for this but I must say its kinda harsh to their Halo fans. Like I said though Microsoft must have really pissed them off.


You mean like Ninja Theory when they abandoned Sony and the Heavenly Sword IP.


what does that have to do with anything? Ninja Theory was never even owned by Sony. There is a lot of reasons why it failed and NT themselves said they wanted to move on from the IP so it's kind of on them not sony for letting it go. Sounds like you're really upset about this but you have no argument. If you want to try to argue somehow how Sony can mistreat their developers at least go with a real example their wipeout studio they never really gave a chance.



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EspadaGrim on 20 February 2013
Horrorfest said:
EspadaGrim said:
Horrorfest said:

I've heard it from Bungie before how they hated being limited to only making one franchise and how microsoft rejected their ideas and basically treated them like slaves. I'm pretty sure Sony must have given up a bit of cash for this but I think this is really Bungie getting back at Microsoft for how they treated them. I'm a PlayStation guy and I don't blame Bungie for this but I must say its kinda harsh to their Halo fans. Like I said though Microsoft must have really pissed them off.


You mean like Ninja Theory when they abandoned Sony and the Heavenly Sword IP.


what does that have to do with anything? Ninja Theory was never even owned by Sony. There is a lot of reasons why it failed and NT themselves said they wanted to move on from the IP so it's kind of on them not sony for letting it go. Sounds like you're really upset about this but you have no argument. If you want to try to argue somehow how Sony can mistreat their developers at least go with a real example their wipeout studio they never really gave a chance.

Because youre saying just because Bungie went multiplat means that they hate Microsoft thats really stupid.



NightDragon83 on 20 February 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
NightDragon83 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
007BondAgent said:
i don't think Microsoft is as bad as they are made up to be, so this deal was just sony trying to find the next call of duty


What? Sony was always going to get destiny. They just decided to announce it live for the PS4. Microsoft paid off Activision to get the game first though. Its sad really, because Microsoft does not allow for timed exclusives to come on the Xbox 360. All games that are multiplatform must come to them first. They are hypocrites to the tenth degree.

No, they're good businessmen, 'tis all.  Funny how we didn't hear a peep from the Sony crowd when the biggest game of last gen, GTAIII, was a PS2 exclusive for two years after $ony signed an agreement with Take Two. (the original deal was to keep GTA exclusive through 2004, so effectively all 3 GTA games would've been released as PS2-exclusives.)


Does Sony have a policy against timed exclusives coming to them late? No. They just stated that they expect extra content in late ports. Microsoft are hypocrites, they will refuse the game if they dont get multiplats at the same time. 

So?  That doesn't make them hypocrites.  It's their console, they have every right to stipulate the rules for putting software on it.  Hell, Nintendo was notorious for using the same type of tactics back during the NES days... their policy was that you could not develop games for other consoles AT ALL if you wanted to make games for the NES, and you could only make 5 games per year for the console if you were a 3rd party, which led to many companies like Konami creating alias brands like "Ultra Games" to get around Nintendo's contract stipulations.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

JWeinCom on 20 February 2013

This isn't really a Bungie things, but a Sony thing in general. Check out games like Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter X Tekken, and so on. Sony seems to like paying for extra stuff. Meanwhile Microsoft seems to prefer locking up DLC for X amount of time.



Horrorfest on 20 February 2013
EspadaGrim said:
Horrorfest said:
EspadaGrim said:
Horrorfest said:

I've heard it from Bungie before how they hated being limited to only making one franchise and how microsoft rejected their ideas and basically treated them like slaves. I'm pretty sure Sony must have given up a bit of cash for this but I think this is really Bungie getting back at Microsoft for how they treated them. I'm a PlayStation guy and I don't blame Bungie for this but I must say its kinda harsh to their Halo fans. Like I said though Microsoft must have really pissed them off.


You mean like Ninja Theory when they abandoned Sony and the Heavenly Sword IP.


what does that have to do with anything? Ninja Theory was never even owned by Sony. There is a lot of reasons why it failed and NT themselves said they wanted to move on from the IP so it's kind of on them not sony for letting it go. Sounds like you're really upset about this but you have no argument. If you want to try to argue somehow how Sony can mistreat their developers at least go with a real example their wipeout studio they never really gave a chance.

Because youre saying just because Bungie went multiplat means that they hate Microsoft thats really stupid.

What the fuck? You didn't even read my post. Fail. I never said that or even impied it. Can you even see the title of the thread? I sure hope you are just trolling.



EspadaGrim on 20 February 2013
Horrorfest said:
EspadaGrim said:
Horrorfest said:
EspadaGrim said:
Horrorfest said:

I've heard it from Bungie before how they hated being limited to only making one franchise and how microsoft rejected their ideas and basically treated them like slaves. I'm pretty sure Sony must have given up a bit of cash for this but I think this is really Bungie getting back at Microsoft for how they treated them. I'm a PlayStation guy and I don't blame Bungie for this but I must say its kinda harsh to their Halo fans. Like I said though Microsoft must have really pissed them off.


You mean like Ninja Theory when they abandoned Sony and the Heavenly Sword IP.


what does that have to do with anything? Ninja Theory was never even owned by Sony. There is a lot of reasons why it failed and NT themselves said they wanted to move on from the IP so it's kind of on them not sony for letting it go. Sounds like you're really upset about this but you have no argument. If you want to try to argue somehow how Sony can mistreat their developers at least go with a real example their wipeout studio they never really gave a chance.

Because youre saying just because Bungie went multiplat means that they hate Microsoft thats really stupid.

What the fuck? You didn't even read my post. Fail. I never said that or even impied it. Can you even see the title of the thread? I sure hope you are just trolling.


Then why are you bringing this up then? they split back in 07 and Harold Ryan has said nothing bad a bout their relationship with microsoft.