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Forums - Microsoft - Xbox Live Counts Active Users! +46m are ACTIVE USERS - Not All-Time Members.

kowenicki said:
sethnintendo said:
Signing on once every 8 months sounds pretty active to me.


lest take it literally... yay.

"every account that has signed on at least once in the last 8 months"... "at least"... so a very small percentage may have only signed on once in the last 8 months.

Its a good number.  I think people should deal with it.

 

Why is it good though? Can you even purchase 8 months of live? I thought it was 3month, 6 month, 1 year, etc? Just really arbitrary and I think it's good to question why 8 months of all numbers?



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Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

kowenicki said:
dsgrue3 said:

Why is it good though? Can you even purchase 8 months of live? I thought it was 3month, 6 month, 1 year, etc? Just really arbitrary and I think it's good to question why 8 months of all numbers?

I have no idea.

But I dont see why it matters? Unless someone is trying to make a lame point it just doesnt.  Clearly the number will be near to 46m whatever way they chose.

What do you want them to use?  How many millions do you think will drop off if they reduced it to say 4 months? or 3 months?

At least there is some qualification and it is a lot better than the numbers you usually get on this stuff, for example the number of facebook or PSN accounts, which just tend to be the number ever created, be they live or not - meaningless.

Yeah sheer number of accounts is meaningless, I agree. That's what I told the OP.

But 8 months is weird. Why not 6 months? I mean if we're talking active here, why not something along the lines of once a month over the past 6 months/year?

What I take from this - 6 month was disproportionately smaller than 8 months, which is why they used such a weird number to inflate "active" users.



Excluding Dota wich wow has insane numbers:

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

The rest is pretty meh, Black Ops 2 on 360 or Ps3 doubles all Steam users combined playing games once day.



it's pretty normal to count 8 months as active.. Hotmail/Live mail set your account inactive after 8,5 months.. Google does it at 9 months.. Twitter has a 6 month policy.. Ea has 24 months.. 8 months is fine



 

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kowenicki said:

Ok seeing as we are in guessing mode (yes your post is a complete guess as to why this is as it is), then do you want to guess further and tell us how much lower it would be?  may aswell add a guess on top of another guess for the hell of it.

I suggest you take it at face value and leave it at that. Anthing else is conjecture or mischievousness, probably both.

....active in the last 12 months would have done for me, so I guess they went the extra mile as usual.

Educated guess, yes. I am "guessing" that a company will MAXIMIZE its PR speak. Not exactly rocket science here.

No I don't want to speculate real numbers, just that it would be disproportionately lower.

1 year would do it, but not for "once in a year" - I mean the criteria would have to be something on the order of at least signed in once every 2 months. That's a pretty extremely broad "active" base. 



kowenicki said:
NiKKoM said:
it's pretty normal to count 8 months as active.. Hotmail/Live mail set your account inactive after 8,5 months.. Google does it at 9 months.. Twitter has a 6 month policy.. Ea has 24 months.. 8 months is fine


thanks for that... didnt realise.

makes sense now.


Not for dsgrue3 though.  



 

Screw Live numbers. Theyre pointless. The only numbers that matter are Gold Subscribers, Hardware and Software.



                            

dsgrue3 said:
Tell me how on an install base of 74m are there 100m accounts?

Easy, multiple accounts per console. On our first Xbox, at one stage my brother and I had two separate Gold accounts and later my Dad made a silver account. I also know my cousins share an Xbox but have separate accounts and friends who have used the 3 one-month trails on the consoles. That all adds to the accounts total tally, even if not the active tally.