So many of you saying this.. and that.. and wiiU is dead... LOL

Just remember what ya'll said about the .. DS vs Psp .. Wii vs PS360 .. 3DS vs VITA.. yall ended up wrong wrong and wrong.

..and now the wiiU vs PS4720 ... lol which is now a dead wiiU vs the unannounced systems.

First day purchase for me. At $599 it still wouldn't be a drastically underpowered $350 nursery school / old folks home console with humongously limited storage space and online as a third thought in 2013 and the future.  Not to be pointing the finger at anyone.

That makes no sense....see the majority of those early PS3/360 efforts were first party...are you saying Nintendo has put no effort behind their latest console? It's either the Ninty sucks as a Console maker or the console is just underwhelming 

399 - 449 possibly?

I wasn't wrong with my predictions after all.   $399 and $450 for a new gen console is ok.

Sony could follow MS steps and release subsidized versions.

Sony would be wise to but out a console that costs no more than 399$. Anything above 500 would be madness.

Nooooooowwwwwww your getting it.  No it isn't THAT huge of a leap, but it is ahead.  Developers still getting used to the hardware are pushing out the equivilant of the absolute latest 7th Gen consoles.  In other words it is more powerful and you'll see it doing  some impresive stuff later on, some maybe even on par of the early PS720 titles, however eventually it will be outdone by them, but even they wont be huge leaps.

As you said, if you're looking for a huge leap, look somewhere else which is absolutely true.  Which always confuses me as to why people get mad at Nintendo for not being cutting edge.  If you don't want it, don't buy, but the fact is it is the Wii U is significantly more powerful than the current Gen consoles and later games will show this.   The argument of it is the same power or worse is getting really old.

depends on how expensive the controller is.  If they keep that basic or just add a couple small things they could easily double the WiiU internals cost.  WiiU costs $350 because of the controller, it's about $150.  So they have about $200 worth of hardware in the box.  Sony could make a $400 box with a controller that costs about $50 (current price I believe although it probably doesn't cost that much for them to make) and easily outshine the WiiU graphically by a big margin.

So probably around £350 for us Brits then, if that ends up being correct, given we always pay a little more relative to the Americans.

you are ignoring the power of games as a hobby/entertainment.

wii U had the 8 and 32 GBs SKUs and the 32 sold out and the 8 gathering dust on shelfs... gamers take gaming seriously. so initial price is more of a detail... Casuals on the other hand, price and easy of use is key, and sony can go after these latter down the road.

i say, if sony do 450 for lower SKU and 500 for a better SKU, it would sell the 500 at higher rate...

if specs are right... its about 4X more powerful and 450 is a bad price? for just 100 more than the best selling wii U SKU people can have more for less money. not bad in my book.