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Forums - Sony - Will the PS Vita gain the ability to download everything online in the background while gaming & using apps thru a Firmware Update like the 3DS did with Firmware 2.1.0-3U?

 

Would you want any future firmware updates for Vita to increase Battery Life instead?

Yes, in 1 or so updates. 25 55.56%
 
No, I just want the PS Vi... 20 44.44%
 
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You changed the title. The Vita has done this since day one. How much do you even know about it?



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I didnt know the 3DS had that update. Pretty cool.

I'm sure its within Sony power to do the same with the Vita, if they want. The thing can already run games and play your music at the same time.



JoeTheBro said:
You changed the title. The Vita has done this since day one. How much do you even know about it?


If you are talking abou the new title, well I have heard other people who say they own the Vita say that it doesn't do it.

But if it already does it then; my bad.

Thanks for the help.

I just hope we continue to get even further increases in battery life on both Handhelds then the increase they have both already gotten so far.



joeorc said:
Kaizar said:
If the CPU was 250 MHz or so (but under 300 MHz) 2-core then the battery life would be 12 hours or more, on the pre-install firmware on the 3DS.

And the 3DS can download over 300 MB of video directly within App within around 5 minutes using b/g wireless (every single time in my experience using 15 MB a second Home Wi-Fi)

And the eShop streams 120 refresh rate 3D videos (60 fps per video image) in fine quality.

So explain how with your 3Dbrew.org VS. Wikipedia.org

That is not true at all, Not all Chipsets have the same exact power draw. Some require more power  consumption There is Energy-Efficient CPU's and Some are not as Efficient. its not just about better semiconductor processor dies also,  but also the Vcore of the processor itself, does the Mem Controller is that single or dual channel what scale is it what's its  Process Geometry @? many thing's go into the power consumption clock Freq. its not based on what Hz/ it seems you have a perception what you think it is not what it really is.

The fact that Arm does not design a ARM 11 past 1 GHz excet maybe in single core only @ 65G , and that Some one already showed you anyway:

look at this chart. and look on the left and than look at the right side!

                                                   Speed optimized ARM11MP single core   /   Area optimized ARM11MP dual core

http://www.arm.com/products/processors/classic/arm11/arm11-mpcore.php

865 MHz = Speed optimized ARM11MP single core

427 MHz = Area optimized ARM11MP dual core

yes you can indeed over clock or under clock a CPU within limit's

So How Many ARM 11 Core's are in the Nintendo 3DS? That Is RIGHT the 3DS has TWO which make's it that Each core will be

427 MHz = Area optimized ARM11MP dual core

or Less, can it go higher for each core, yes and over clocking any CPU can kill it and make it unstable, Like i stated you can over clock any CPU a certain extent.

Like for instance to get near the clock Frenq. you were talking about you would need the Quad core ver. of the ARM 11

732 MHz = ARM11MP 4 core

that is still 732 MHz and remember that is still not taking into account no vector floating point (VFP) 

you can use QNX, but its not as Efficient due also  Process Geometry for fab.of your chip also plays a big part of power consumption of your chip ,than you have leakage that can use even more power even in sleep states.

to even reach that 1.8 GHz mark you stated.single core most likely would be the only way if @ all




HoloDust said:
Kaizar said:

Hey since you guys know so much about tech, then can you help me with this:

Now the GameCube has over 20 million Polygons

The Wii probably has somewhere from 50 to 100 million polygons

The 3DS GPU spec says it can do 15.3 million Polygons and the PS Vita GPU spec is said to do up to 35 million polygons in any one game

But both Handhelds have more better looking graphics then the Wii, and easily at that.

How is that possible?

I mean they look more detail and everything.

Is it the triangles or what?

3DS - PICA2000:

  • 400 MPixels/s @100 MHz
  • 1600 MPixels/s @400 MHz
  • 40 MTriangles/s @100 MHz
  • 160 MTriangles/s @400 MHz

VITA - SGX543MP4+ (4 cores):

  • 1000 MPixels/s @200 MHz per core
  • 35 MTriangles/s @200 MHz per core

Thanks, that would go well with info I got from a user name Drago on yahoo answers:

ok i am really tired of this crap how foolish the people are they even dont know about nintendo 3ds cpu and its hidden capacities i open 3ds myself and i found out about

 

3ds:-
1] 2 cpu's its dual core each is cabable of going to 1.8ghz but each underclocked at 800mhz for battery issues
2]more than 200mb of ram ...some people say its 128mb but its more than that...
3]gpu is is clocked at 400mhz
4]gpu can be overclocked at more than 1ghz so think about that.underclocked at 400mhz
5]its 3d think before you talk.
6]1.5gb of flash memory.
7]overall cpu of 3ds can be more than 3ghz if overclocked.

ps vita:-
1]4 cpus 4 cores running each at 1ghz it isn't even capable of going up to 1.2ghz.
2]cpu is same as iphone 4's
3]526mb of ram it can be more than that...cause its much better than ps3
4]gpu is capable of going upto 300mhz..so think about it.
5]even if 3ds and ps vita will be hacked..people arent gonna download those up to 8gb sized games of vita & 3ds 
6]max cartridge capacity of 3ds is same as ps vita.
7]over all cpu of ps vita is upto 4ghz.

 

 

I think he got confuse from the RAM efficiency or something. But you get the point.

Anyways these are the facts of the custom made chip in the 3DS.



Kaizar said:
JoeTheBro said:
You changed the title. The Vita has done this since day one. How much do you even know about it?


If you are talking abou the new title, well I have heard other people who say they own the Vita say that it doesn't do it.

But if it already does it then; my bad.


I think you need better sources lol. The only feature the 3DS has that Vita doesn't yet is Folders.



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Kaizar said:

Thanks, that would go well with info I got from a user name Drago on yahoo answers:

ok i am really tired of this crap how foolish the people are they even dont know about nintendo 3ds cpu and its hidden capacities i open 3ds myself and i found out about

 

3ds:-
1] 2 cpu's its dual core each is cabable of going to 1.8ghz but each underclocked at 800mhz for battery issues
2]more than 200mb of ram ...some people say its 128mb but its more than that...
3]gpu is is clocked at 400mhz
4]gpu can be overclocked at more than 1ghz so think about that.underclocked at 400mhz
5]its 3d think before you talk.
6]1.5gb of flash memory.
7]overall cpu of 3ds can be more than 3ghz if overclocked.

ps vita:-
1]4 cpus 4 cores running each at 1ghz it isn't even capable of going up to 1.2ghz.
2]cpu is same as iphone 4's
3]526mb of ram it can be more than that...cause its much better than ps3
4]gpu is capable of going upto 300mhz..so think about it.
5]even if 3ds and ps vita will be hacked..people arent gonna download those up to 8gb sized games of vita & 3ds 
6]max cartridge capacity of 3ds is same as ps vita.
7]over all cpu of ps vita is upto 4ghz.

 

 

I think he got confuse from the RAM efficiency or something. But you get the point.

Anyways these are the facts of the custom made chip in the 3DS.

Yahoo answers guy doesn't know what in the world he's talking about.



JoeTheBro said:
Kaizar said:
JoeTheBro said:
You changed the title. The Vita has done this since day one. How much do you even know about it?


If you are talking abou the new title, well I have heard other people who say they own the Vita say that it doesn't do it.

But if it already does it then; my bad.


I think you need better sources lol. The only feature the 3DS has that Vita doesn't yet is Folders.

LOL, I agree.

Well, at least we know that both handhelds have been getting an increase in battery life, and hopefully should be seeing more. *fingers cross*



The 3DS can background download now?



This thread is full of wrong.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

TheBardsSong said:
The 3DS can background download now?


Since 2011.

If you exclude Kid Icarus: Uprising & eShop.

But the eShop use to have background downloading until during 2012 with Firmware somewhere from 4.0.0-7U to 4.3.0-10U.