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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony Q3 FY2012 - $124m loss, PS3+PS2 6.8m, PSV+PSP 2.7m

man-bear-pig on 02 February 2013
bananaking21 said:
man-bear-pig said:
This is gonna be a tough one to call...

On one hand, they've had Skyfall which is one of the highest grossing films of all time, they sold a record 10m smartphones in the quarter and there is a favourable exchange rate. On the other hand, however, the gaming division and TV division will be down YOY and sales of their Vaio laptops will also be down. Hmm...

how do you now they sold 10million smartphones?


From the IDC, which was released a few daya ago:

Top Five Smartphone Vendors, Shipments, and Market Share, Q4 2012 (Units in Millions) 

Vendor

4Q12 Unit Shipments

4Q12 Market Share

4Q11 Unit Shipments

4Q11 Market Share

Year-over-Year Change

1. Samsung

63.7

29.0%

36.2

22.5%

76.0%

2. Apple

47.8

21.8%

37.0

23.0%

29.2%

3. Huawei

10.8

4.9%

5.7

3.5%

89.5%

4. Sony

9.8

4.5%

6.3

3.9%

55.6%

5. ZTE

9.5

4.3%

6.4

4.0%

48.4%

Others

77.8

35.5%

69.2

43.1%

12.4%

Total

219.4

100.0%

160.8

100.0%

36.4%

 

...so they increased their smarphone sales by 3.5m YOY.



My prediction threads:

Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)

PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)

Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right

Halo 4 first 9 weeks sales prediction

PS4 to be down YOY in 2015

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bananaking21 on 02 February 2013
man-bear-pig said:
bananaking21 said:
man-bear-pig said:
This is gonna be a tough one to call...

On one hand, they've had Skyfall which is one of the highest grossing films of all time, they sold a record 10m smartphones in the quarter and there is a favourable exchange rate. On the other hand, however, the gaming division and TV division will be down YOY and sales of their Vaio laptops will also be down. Hmm...

how do you now they sold 10million smartphones?


From the IDC, which was released a few daya ago:

Top Five Smartphone Vendors, Shipments, and Market Share, Q4 2012 (Units in Millions) 

Vendor

4Q12 Unit Shipments

4Q12 Market Share

4Q11 Unit Shipments

4Q11 Market Share

Year-over-Year Change

1. Samsung

63.7

29.0%

36.2

22.5%

76.0%

2. Apple

47.8

21.8%

37.0

23.0%

29.2%

3. Huawei

10.8

4.9%

5.7

3.5%

89.5%

4. Sony

9.8

4.5%

6.3

3.9%

55.6%

5. ZTE

9.5

4.3%

6.4

4.0%

48.4%

Others

77.8

35.5%

69.2

43.1%

12.4%

Total

219.4

100.0%

160.8

100.0%

36.4%

 

...so they increased their smarphone sales by 3.5m YOY.


not bad, not bad at all. hopefully this year they will continue to grow with the xperia Z they got one hell of a smartphone to do so 

do you know how many phones they sold for the entire year?



huiii on 02 February 2013

Didn't someone say that if they sold 10mil smartphones theyr phonedivision would turn profitable?
So good news?



bananaking21 on 03 February 2013
huiii said:

Didn't someone say that if they sold 10mil smartphones theyr phonedivision would turn profitable?
So good news?


i think that was in an ethomaz thread. but techinically they sold 9.8 million so i dont know if that turned profit lol



ethomaz on 03 February 2013

man-bear-pig said:

From the IDC, which was released a few daya ago:

Top Five Smartphone Vendors, Shipments, and Market Share, Q4 2012 (Units in Millions) 

Vendor

4Q12 Unit Shipments

4Q12 Market Share

4Q11 Unit Shipments

4Q11 Market Share

Year-over-Year Change

1. Samsung

63.7

29.0%

36.2

22.5%

76.0%

2. Apple

47.8

21.8%

37.0

23.0%

29.2%

3. Huawei

10.8

4.9%

5.7

3.5%

89.5%

4. Sony

9.8

4.5%

6.3

3.9%

55.6%

5. ZTE

9.5

4.3%

6.4

4.0%

48.4%

Others

77.8

35.5%

69.2

43.1%

12.4%

Total

219.4

100.0%

160.8

100.0%

36.4%

 

...so they increased their smarphone sales by 3.5m YOY.

Thanks... I will put in the OP.



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Train wreck on 03 February 2013

net income

breakeven-$1 billion ~70%
$1 billion-2 billion ~25%
$2 billion+ ~5%

Sony will raise their year end numbers (due to the sale of its NY building which closes in March) and most likely raise next years numbers also.



Sh1nn on 03 February 2013

Sony stock up almost 10% today



ethomaz on 03 February 2013

Yeap Sony is getting on track... the buildings sold helped a lot.



zhao3gold on 04 February 2013

PS3 will reach 77million and surpass Xbox360. Believe it.



legend92(3) on 04 February 2013
ethomaz said:
Yeap Sony is getting on track... the buildings sold helped a lot.


The sale is yet to be finalised and therefore wont count towards this Qtrs profits. Also "Sony said it is expected to receive net cash proceeds of about $770 million. A gain on the sale of about $685 million would be recorded as operating income"