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MattyPeq said:
ps3-sales! said:
Lol. Hasn't even been out half a year. It'll be fine.


Exactly. Way less than half a years.

About 2 months and 1/2 (73 days) in USA. 2 months (61 days) in Europe. Less than 2 months (53 days) in Japan.

And it looks like 3 million Wii Us have already been sold worldwide. So... not too bad.

Especially when you consider the fact that people are only buying one game (two, but the other is bundled everywhere but Japan, where it's selling way less).

73 days US, 61 days EU, 53 days JP. More than 3 million units sold, 1 appealing game (the people have spoken).

Let's wait until more games come. Because we all know they will come and they will be from multi-million selling franchises.


It's slightly underperforming but nowhere near the disaster that is the PS Vita!!!



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oni-link said:
MattyPeq said:
ps3-sales! said:
Lol. Hasn't even been out half a year. It'll be fine.


Exactly. Way less than half a years.

About 2 months and 1/2 (73 days) in USA. 2 months (61 days) in Europe. Less than 2 months (53 days) in Japan.

And it looks like 3 million Wii Us have already been sold worldwide. So... not too bad.

Especially when you consider the fact that people are only buying one game (two, but the other is bundled everywhere but Japan, where it's selling way less).

73 days US, 61 days EU, 53 days JP. More than 3 million units sold, 1 appealing game (the people have spoken).

Let's wait until more games come. Because we all know they will come and they will be from multi-million selling franchises.


It's slightly underperforming but nowhere near the disaster that is the PS Vita!!!


It would be underperforming with a decent line up. In japan, it has had no releases since december. lol. Why would people buy it?

For NSMBU? That came out 4 months after NSMB2. My God... that was the worst move ever.

If NSMB2 didn't exist (yeah, 3DS would be even worse in the West, blah blah), NSMBU would have sold way more. Especially in Japan.

Wii U has one game and even that one game is flawed, because it has been released too close to another episode of the same franchise.

So... I say it's doing good. I don't care about expectations. Expectations do not consider the fact that the console has one game.

One game ----> 3 million + consoles sold = good.

 

Funny thing is: I have a day one Wii U and I have 7 games (and I will get Scribblenauts and Rayman Legends as soon as they hit EU). So I'm surely not complaining about the line up.

To me, this is the best console ever. Unfortunately, this doesn't work for everyone else...



Nintendo says wii u has shifted 3.06m units and 11.69m games by 31 dec 2012. Vgchartz says wii u sold 2.47m units and 4.96m games by 23 Jan 2013. Vgchartz are shockingly bad at tracking wii u software, they have tracked little over 40% of all wii u games sold.



Metroid33slayer said:
Nintendo says wii u has shifted 3.06m units and 11.69m games by 31 dec 2012. Vgchartz says wii u sold 2.47m units and 4.96m games by 23 Jan 2013. Vgchartz are shockingly bad at tracking wii u software, they have tracked little over 40% of all wii u games sold.


Is it at all possible the 11.69 million is all software Wii U & 3DS combined?

And the 3 million Wii U's sold is sold to retail, not sold at retail.



chris_wing said:
Metroid33slayer said:
Nintendo says wii u has shifted 3.06m units and 11.69m games by 31 dec 2012. Vgchartz says wii u sold 2.47m units and 4.96m games by 23 Jan 2013. Vgchartz are shockingly bad at tracking wii u software, they have tracked little over 40% of all wii u games sold.


Is it at all possible the 11.69 million is all software Wii U & 3DS combined?

No.  It's shipped Wii U software+eshop sales.  Most of the software probably hasn't been sold.  It's pretty easy to ship more software than is needed for launch because retailers don't know which games will be hits and they don't know how much hardware will end up selling.



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Yakuzaice said:
chris_wing said:
Metroid33slayer said:
Nintendo says wii u has shifted 3.06m units and 11.69m games by 31 dec 2012. Vgchartz says wii u sold 2.47m units and 4.96m games by 23 Jan 2013. Vgchartz are shockingly bad at tracking wii u software, they have tracked little over 40% of all wii u games sold.


Is it at all possible the 11.69 million is all software Wii U & 3DS combined?

No.  It's shipped Wii U software+eshop sales.  Most of the software probably hasn't been sold.  It's pretty easy to ship more software than is needed for launch because retailers don't know which games will be hits and they don't know how much hardware will end up selling.

Just throwing it out there since clearly they don't have an attach ratio of 4-1.



oni-link said:

I sometimes hate the vanity people exude in this site sometiimes. Poeple who tell you what you should or should not know is just a prime example of an overbloated ego.  Anyways, VGC undertracked this since they have the Wii U selling only 2.5 mil date ending 01/19/13 compared to Nintendo's numbers of 3.1 mil sold!!! I still stand by 3.3-3.4 mil sold for date ending 01/26/13 since even VGC has the numbers selling ~225K (not a bad number huh?) in the 3 weeks of January.  I fully expect the system to rebound and sell around ~50-60K the final week of Jan2013.  But hey I'm no Patcher.

What part of "It's shipped." don't you get?  There's no vanity here, several dozen of these quarterly financial reports have been released during your time on VGC, and this misconception comes up in nearly every single one.  Your posts have already misled several people into thinking these are sell-through numbers which just exacerbates the issue.  I mean I said point blank that they were shipment numbers, and yet you continue to claim VGChartz is undertracking the Wii U.

Anyways, the Wii U probably isn't undertracked, most data points to it being overtracked.  We'll get more data from Nintendo in a few hours.



Gamerace said:
Cheebee said:

I think Nintendo's fine. Cutting WiiU's price SO soon would be crazy. And definitely very bad when you take into account consumer and investor trust and confidence.

Besides, another very important point you ought to take into account (imo) is that Sony/Microsoft's next consoles will be more expensive than WiiU currently is, presumably by a VERY significant margin.

So when those release, WiiU will suddenly look a lot more affordable, especially taking into account that by then it will have a very attractive library of big games appealing to different audiences (NSMBU, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, Zelda WW, 3D Mario, Pikmin 3, that X RPG, Game & Wario, Yarn Yoshi, plus 3rd party stuff like MH3U, COD, Lego City, Just Dance 5, Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, all most likely released or soon to be, by then).

And that's not even taking into account a lot of new games surely yet to be unveiled, and e-shop stuff.

Some people think WiiU's expensive, but when PS4/X720 come out, costing $400-$500, with a tiny library (mostly consisting of games that won't matter either, as with all new console launches, ever), WiiU will be in a very comfortable position, I should think.

And should Nintendo feel the need, THEN they could take measures. Like dropping the Basic bundle, and lowering the Premium WiiU to $299, offering it in black and white. This shouldn't cost them as much, and WiiU should be quite profitable by then, anyway. Such a move, a year after launch, would be very acceptable in the eyes of consumers and investors, and not tarnish trust and confidence. Doing it now, or in a few weeks/months, would, and not be seen as very acceptable. Imo.

I would like to believe this and it's a intelligent argument.  However, I doubt Orbis/Durango will be over $400.   Based on the latest spec rumours people are estimating a $350 price point for PS4 (loss leading but not anything crazy like PS3 was) and 720 will be heavily subsidized by MS 2-3 year subscription model and could even sell for as little as $249 potentially (probably at a small loss).   This would completely screw the noticably underpowered WiiU which, even with a $50 cut would still be $300.

I agree. Those are indeed possibilities. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

There've been so many rumours going about concerning Orbis and Durango and their eventual pricepoints... It could go either way, but I doubt either of the extremes will happen. Meaning, $400 seems like a very likely and probably price for both, imo. Anything over that would be too dangerous, as in this economy it would be a very tough sell, and anything under $350 would, imo, be too low as to be profitable. It's likely they'll both sell at a loss, but I'm finding it very hard to believe that loss will be very substantial, especially in Sony's case.

So should Sony/Microsoft's systems come out at $399, then a $299 WiiU will still seem like a very good deal, I would think, especially taking into account the points I mentioned in my earlier post (mainly the games). Also, while the new systems will obviously more powerful, I think we've come to a point where that won't make too much of a difference the majority of people who buy game systems. If people get to play 5-player Mario Kart U in HD, it won't matter that there's a LBP-Karting or anything similar for that matter, with better lighting, a greater draw-distance, superior textures and tessellation going on.

3rd party games won't matter ayway, 'cos it's painfully obvious by now that Nintendo never will get the kind of support from 3rd parties that their competitors do. It's all on them to bring the games, as it always has been and probably always will be.

Gosh I'm ranting. :p Like I said, we won't know for sure until we'll find out!



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They already aren't making a profit!! This is way too early! Even the Vita is holding out!



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spurgeonryan said:
A price cut now would only show investors that Nintendo does not know what they are doing. Release some games! Do a ton of VC and eshop games! Even add old PC and mobile games. Give people something to do until you can get big games out. Hard to get PC games would be great! 45 years of options man!
Fuck a price cut this early. Until you get more games a price cut will boost sales for a few weeks or more.


I think they should put Donkey Kong 64 on there!



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