Player1x3 said:
ultima said:
Player1x3 said:
I can see that the omniscient Creator of Universe definitely needed some ''tech''to impregnate a woman while keeping her virgin... it's not like he's God or anything...
As for the highlighted part, that's exactly the reason why such comments shouldn't be made. But as long as despicable people exist, they unfortunately will be.
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Well, that so called "omniscient Creator" couldn't apparently create a world without evil but with free will. So yeah, it looks like the so called "omniscient Creator" has to abide by laws of the world. And laws of the world state that for this Mary to get pregnant, she must've had a sperm penetrate her. The only way for her to have stayed a virgin during pregnancy is if she had someone jerk off on her private parts without penetrating her. Or something along those lines.
"Which is more likely: that the whole natural order is suspended or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?" David Hume
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God didn't create world with evil. Evil is absence of good, and that comes from human free will, which is 1 thing God doesn't have a control over. Evil comes from humans, not God. And the fact he created the very fabric of our existence tells us that he doesn't have to abide any laws from it. That's like saying a machine made by man dictates the man's functions, not the other way around
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1. I'm a little confused is 'god' omnipotent or not?
If 'god' is omnipotent then he has absolute control over our free will, which means he also has control of good and evil however they came about. Also I thought the flood was meant to reset the world by wiping out all evil, in which case he tried to control our free will but clearly failed, which then leads to the question, if 'god' is not omnipotent, then what exactly are his capabilities, furthermore, this leads up to...is there any other 'god' who is more powerful than the god of the bible? I ask this because in the first two commandments, "1. I am the LORD thy God, 2. Thou shalt have no other god" This would of course imply there was at least another 'god' figure in the equation. Clearly 'god' establishing himself as lead of the 'club' was more important than "Thou shalt not kill" which was delegated to 7th spot on the 10 commandments, interesting that.
2. Again I'm a little confused is 'god' omniscient or not?
If 'god' is omniscient he would of already known that by creating man and giving them free will they would create evil, if this was the case and he was truly omniscient then he would of put previsions in place to avoid evil from being created which of course would mean a flood was not required to reset the world, but that's not what happened. If 'god' is omniscient and saw everything that would happen including the need to flood the world but still went ahead despite what he already knows, would this not make 'god' incompetent or sadistic?, and if 'god' is NOT omniscient, then he would not have foreseen the events that would occur, which resulted in him trying flood the world to fix his mistake but ultimately failed, would this behaviour of trial and error suggest that 'god' is not perfect but prone to mistakes. Such a 'god' would be truly scary much more so than Iran or North Korea getting nukes.
I would suggest that ‘god’ is not sentient, rather the Universe is god, we can get rid of the term ‘god’ and simply say that the universe has provided the necessary materials for not only our galaxy to be created, but also our sun, our earth and the right elements for life. And when we die, we return back to our creator, the universe. This is why we do not observe supernatural phenomena as the universe its self follows a set guide line which is not supernatural, this has allowed physicist to create laws that follow their observations with predictive capabilities which inform us on how things can work. It’s an ever evolving field as we do not know how everything works in the cosmos nor does anyone studying those filed claim they do, and this is why these people are driven to discover the unknown, I guess we humans just have a thirst for knowledge.
Again, take my thoughts as you will :)