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happydolphin said:
xwan said:
happydolphin said:
xwan said:

Recently came back from San Francisco, on the street there was a guy in the street preaching about Christianity; ppl looked at him weird and treated him like a mad man next the the subway station. Ppl did the same back in the days and were mostly treated with respect... so who was divinely inspired again?! times have chance, sketicisim, individualism, and critical thinking is probably the worst enemy to religion. Who would believe me if I told them I split the Red Sea in half and i can communicate with God? i will probably get treated like a mad man. Stories in the bible sound like fairy tales anyway u look at it. Virgin Mary?! LOL..who's to say the hymen was intacted, she got creampied by someone

First of all I'd like to say that you have no sense of honor. I'm not even catholic but that last sentence is highly insulting in general, I don't need to be religious to realize how out of left field you actually are.

When people call a man a madman, that doesn't make him a madman... I'm not sure where you get your logic from but times have indeed changed if that's the logic used in today's world. I'd rather have my face burn than listen to much more of it to be totally honest.

I am expressing free speech and I think if you believe Bible bedtime stories you are probably idiots but I still "respect" your believes and I won't go blow up your church with a bomb strapped to your bible. In my sane mind, I think the Bible if full of shit, because the stories are not believable and none of you have seen God's face; probably because He doesn't really exist. Show me some hard evidence, maybe I will believe it. Bible didn't mention the dinosaurs, we have fossil records, the dating preceeded the time of Adam and Eve by most Bibilcal records. I went to a Chrisitian elementary school, i thought the stories would bullshit when I was 7 years old, and I still do and I am 29. Sense of honor on a internet forum? Nah, you wanted my opinion and I am here to express it. Reglions only lead to violence; look in any history book.

If I said "Your mother is a whore", would that be ok as free speech? You can't say whatever you want and not expect repercussions if what you say is insulting or lacks civility. 

Honor transcend the medium you communicate on.

And the bible mentions the dinosaurs, but you don't care about that, you just want to say it's bullshit.

 

15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.

20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.

22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.

23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.

24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

 

LOL. Man oh man.



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well it all comes down to perception when they say noah gathered all the animals on a boat could it have been something different and they just didnt know how to describe it? you know if they would have said a flying craft that they had no context of, came and took dna fom animals would you believe that? no of course not but why not? why is it so hard to belive that another species was born on a different planet 100,000 years before us and have the technology to come here, we have cloned a sheep look what weve done in our short time imagine another 500 years or 1000 what could we have. people say well show me the proof people see them everyday an their not all rednecks from the hills a lot are phd scientists and military personal why would they risk there career to talk about "imaginary things"? they wouldnt now people the aliens arent gonna shake your fucking hand sorry they have an agenda all their own that we cant even fathom do we go talking to ants? no because there is no point were not gonna gain anything we are miles ahead of the ant in evolution and the aliens are the same way with us.



Maybe the End Times for Christianity since many of the most popular tv preachers have been telling their flocks that Jesus has to return before the last Jew that was alive at the reformation of Israel in 1948 dies, and the time that the that the last Jew that was alive at the Reformation of Israel in 1948 dies will most probably be somewhere around 2050 to 2065.

Then when that happens and Jesus still fails to show up all those years of failed prophecies combined with an increasingly more educationally advanced population that won't buy into fairy tales so readily as their ancestors did should certainly signal the beginning of the end of Christianity somewhere in that vicinity of time.

However, since the whole Revelations scenario was only written about the Fall of Ancient Rome and has just become a mythological meme in the minds of indoctrinated Christians ever since that time, the rest of the world will be just fine and move on and Christianity will increasingly come to be known as just a footnote in the intellectual development of mankind with a more repugnant history than all of the others combined.



finalfantasystud said:
well it all comes down to perception when they say noah gathered all the animals on a boat could it have been something different and they just didnt know how to describe it? you know if they would have said a flying craft that they had no context of, came and took dna fom animals would you believe that? no of course not but why not? why is it so hard to belive that another species was born on a different planet 100,000 years before us and have the technology to come here, we have cloned a sheep look what weve done in our short time imagine another 500 years or 1000 what could we have. people say well show me the proof people see them everyday an their not all rednecks from the hills a lot are phd scientists and military personal why would they risk there career to talk about "imaginary things"? they wouldnt now people the aliens arent gonna shake your fucking hand sorry they have an agenda all their own that we cant even fathom do we go talking to ants? no because there is no point were not gonna gain anything we are miles ahead of the ant in evolution and the aliens are the same way with us.

Even in a system that developes sentient life the process takes billions of years, not many planets have that long in the goldilocks zone.  Of those that do only a certain portion would develope space flight.  Of those few that do, sublight speed is likely to be limiting even to those with the capability to build wormholes like the Viser-Kramer gates since to control them they would need to build something on either end which means probably 0.1-0.4 C travel at best system to system.  This means somewhere between 5 and 50 million years to explore the galaxy.  Most species will either go extinct or evolve into something else in that time and social cohesion to maintain such an ambition is unlikely.  Asuming some begin the process they are unlikely to complete it since the energy requirement is just so damn high.

Now given the unlikely event that this has happened consider the vast differences in stellar evolution, most of these events will be offset in time by a considerable amount of time, probably measured in millions of years.  If anything comes here it is likley a robotic probe or a automated gate building ship... more likely the former.  They will have better things to do than to abduct Vern the plumber and probe him anally.



ROFLMAO said:
Christians thinking their silly little storybook is fact when it was written by people who had absolutely no concept of science makes me giggle.


Your post made me laugh at how people just parrot what they heard and not do any research for them-selves. While it is true that the Bible isn't a scienctific textbook, and wasn't meant to be. Where it does touch on science it is very accurate, even to the point where it stood at odds with the best scientific minds of the time it was written.

A few examples:

Cleaniness and santary laws of the Mosaic Law covenent where out of step with the popular advanced medical science of Egypt. Where Egypt used feeces and urine in their salves and oinments. The Mosaic law  required that such things should be done outside of the living area  and a ditch should be dug and such items buried, and if a person came into contact with such things the where to bath and be corentined to prevent the spread of infectious diseases.

In the book of Job, written by Moses, stated that the Earth is suspended in space on nothing. (Job 26:7)

The bible writter Ishiah said that the earth was a circle(globe, the Hebrew/Aramaic word used here can be translated either circle or globe) And the two above where written in a time where the prevelent view was the Earth was a flat sheet set up something, set up a turtle swimming in an ocean. (Isa 40:22)

The Bible writter Solomon poetically discribed the water cycle. (Ecc  1:7)

The creation account as it is written in the Bible is extrememly accuarate form a view point of a person standing on the Earth. Which explains the sepration of the appearence of light and the appearence of the sun and moon. The cloud cover would first let in light then as the cloud cover lessened over millions of year. The problem with the account comes from those who don't know how the acount was written and insist on a literal 24-hour periods. Where the word translated day, has the meaning of an era or period of time. There was a seprate word used for the 24-hour day.

The same account is supported by the fossile evidence on when certin classifications of spieces appeared on the planet.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2005241

The above is an article on this subject.



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ASStronaut said:

If I said "Your mother is a whore", would that be ok as free speech? You can't say whatever you want and not expect repercussions if what you say is insulting or lacks civility. 

Honor transcend the medium you communicate on.

And the bible mentions the dinosaurs, but you don't care about that, you just want to say it's bullshit.

 

15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.

20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.

22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.

23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.

24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

 

LOL. Man oh man.

Wat! What do you want? What is it you want from me exactly? He challenged the bible by saying it never mentioned dinosaurs, I give an example where it does and I get this shit. Seriously, figure it out first, then come waste my time with questions.

@Maher. Laughing at something doesn't make it less true...



happydolphin said:
ASStronaut said:

If I said "Your mother is a whore", would that be ok as free speech? You can't say whatever you want and not expect repercussions if what you say is insulting or lacks civility. 

Honor transcend the medium you communicate on.

And the bible mentions the dinosaurs, but you don't care about that, you just want to say it's bullshit.

 

15 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.

16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.

17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.

18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.

19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.

20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.

21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.

22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.

23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.

24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

 

LOL. Man oh man.

Wat! What do you want? What is it you want from me exactly? He challenged the bible by saying it never mentioned dinosaurs, I give an example where it does and I get this shit. Seriously, figure it out first, then come waste my time with questions.

@Maher. Laughing at something doesn't make it less true...

Why would I ask you any questions?



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wait wait your gonna tell me in the little amount of time humans have had to do what we've done mainstream scientists say we've only been around for like 8,000 years we went from building primative towns and technology which iwoudbe referring to the sumarians. which i think we can both agree 8,000 years isnt long in univeral time and just in that little amount of time which i shouldn't even go that far backcuz look just 200 years ago we didnt have skyscrapers cars planes submarines satelites nano technology etc. and if i went around telling everyone 200 years ago that we would have phones and internet they would have locked me away in the looney bin. and just because a lowly intelligent being like us humans cant seem to go 20 years without fighting and destroying each other (religon) doesn't mean another race with much more intelligence would. its funny how dumb you are yeah sure NOW you dont think going to the moon is impossible but 150 years ago if i told you that you wouldhave said "impossible" why? because your not smart enough, well us humans havent done it so no one else can, thats just a ignorant way of lookingat things, and a million miles seems far but not when you can travel interdemensionally you could travel 100 million light years within a blink of an eye. guesss what 500 years ago scientists said the world was roundand guess what 99% of people knew it to be true even though they were wrong. just like us today we think its inconcievable to travel far just because we 've been flying for 50 years and we know everything right? wrong and in 500 or maybe 5,000 years if you were alive you might have a different opinion get out of your cave and open your mind. jeez people are either brainwashed or just dumb.



Aielyn said:
dsgrue3 said:
Thermal expansion does not apply. The displacement of the solid water is the same as the displacement from the water in liquid form - as the experiment showed.

The only applicible response was Mr. Khans. You just parroted his answer.

And clearly you completely ignored mine. Go and read it.

My bad, several people quoted me.

Yeah, my explaination was false. It's the displacement that is key. Displacement from solid water (ice) is the same as the displacement from the liquid water (melted ice).



allenmaher said:
 The planet's orbit may decay ...

Actually the opposite, the earth's distance from the sun increases (just as the moon is slowly leaving - conservation of angular momentum). The explosion of the outer solar shell while turning into a red giant,  will evaporate all the inner plants including the earth.

But why this site attracts so many religious nutjobs is curious, indeed. Every week there is another escapee from the looney bin trying to convince people here that "the bible is right" by interpreting obscure passages of the bible in even more obscure ways.

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-Mr Khan