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Player1x3 on 27 January 2013
jake_the_fake1 said:
Player1x3 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
xwan said:
happydolphin said:
xwan said:
why would anyone believe in a book someone wrote? even my medical textbooks are full of error, and these are heavily researched evidence based book... We don't even know who 'really' wrote the bible. Probably some guy trying to make some quick cash on sheepish believers of their time.

Because there's that odd chance that _those_ who wrote the book were divinely inspired.


Recently came back from San Francisco, on the street there was a guy in the street preaching about Christianity; ppl looked at him weird and treated him like a mad man next the the subway station. Ppl did the same back in the days and were mostly treated with respect... so who was divinely inspired again?! times have chance, sketicisim, individualism, and critical thinking is probably the worst enemy to religion. Who would believe me if I told them I split the Red Sea in half and i can communicate with God? i will probably get treated like a mad man. Stories in the bible sound like fairy tales anyway u look at it. Virgin Mary?! LOL..who's to say the hymen was intacted, she got creampied by someone

That made me lol

It's extremely offensive and disrespectful actually


It genuinely made me laugh, only because I've never seen anyone put it so bluntly.

Despite how he put his point accross, he has a valid point, she would of been impregnated the traditional way, weather she was rapped or simply had sex. I'd be willing to believe these two things....unless some how back then they had the tech to be able to artificially inseminate her....but that would be to much of a leap to make, wouldn't it?  Some times the simplest explination is the  correct explination, so no need to over complicate things.

As for the highlighted part, it's the internet, most specifically, it's a thread dealing with religion, such comments will be made. I'd suggest swallowing a cement pill or simply ignoring these threads, your choice :)

I can see that the omniscient Creator of Universe definitely needed some ''tech''to impregnate a woman while keeping her virgin... it's not like he's God or anything...

 As for the highlighted part, that's exactly the reason why such comments shouldn't be made. But as long as despicable people exist, they unfortunately will be.



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Ostro on 27 January 2013

Let's ask Pachter first.



ArnoldRimmer on 27 January 2013

According to jewish belief, god will take a rest for 1000 years in the year 2239. And the messiah is expected to come before that. Even that sounds like a more appropriate "end time" based on biblical texts than the strange reasoning in the original posting.



ultima on 27 January 2013
Player1x3 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
Player1x3 said:
jake_the_fake1 said:
xwan said:
happydolphin said:
xwan said:
why would anyone believe in a book someone wrote? even my medical textbooks are full of error, and these are heavily researched evidence based book... We don't even know who 'really' wrote the bible. Probably some guy trying to make some quick cash on sheepish believers of their time.

Because there's that odd chance that _those_ who wrote the book were divinely inspired.


Recently came back from San Francisco, on the street there was a guy in the street preaching about Christianity; ppl looked at him weird and treated him like a mad man next the the subway station. Ppl did the same back in the days and were mostly treated with respect... so who was divinely inspired again?! times have chance, sketicisim, individualism, and critical thinking is probably the worst enemy to religion. Who would believe me if I told them I split the Red Sea in half and i can communicate with God? i will probably get treated like a mad man. Stories in the bible sound like fairy tales anyway u look at it. Virgin Mary?! LOL..who's to say the hymen was intacted, she got creampied by someone

That made me lol

It's extremely offensive and disrespectful actually


It genuinely made me laugh, only because I've never seen anyone put it so bluntly.

Despite how he put his point accross, he has a valid point, she would of been impregnated the traditional way, weather she was rapped or simply had sex. I'd be willing to believe these two things....unless some how back then they had the tech to be able to artificially inseminate her....but that would be to much of a leap to make, wouldn't it?  Some times the simplest explination is the  correct explination, so no need to over complicate things.

As for the highlighted part, it's the internet, most specifically, it's a thread dealing with religion, such comments will be made. I'd suggest swallowing a cement pill or simply ignoring these threads, your choice :)

I can see that the omniscient Creator of Universe definitely needed some ''tech''to impregnate a woman while keeping her virgin... it's not like he's God or anything...

 As for the highlighted part, that's exactly the reason why such comments shouldn't be made. But as long as despicable people exist, they unfortunately will be.

Well, that so called "omniscient Creator" couldn't apparently create a world without evil but with free will. So yeah, it looks like the so called "omniscient Creator" has to abide by laws of the world. And laws of the world state that for this Mary to get pregnant, she must've had a sperm penetrate her. The only way for her to have stayed a virgin during pregnancy is if she had someone jerk off on her private parts without penetrating her. Or something along those lines.

"Which is more likely: that the whole natural order is suspended or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?" David Hume



           

Aielyn on 27 January 2013

Player1x3 said:
I know you're trying to be witty, but the Old Testament is written hundreds (if not thousands) of years ago before the New Testament (which is The Bible). And that's a historic fact. And given that it was written by different people from different areas around the world, i really fail to see your point..

Not trying to be witty. I'm making an important point.

It's not hard for a book to satisfy the predictions of an older book. I could go ahead, compile a list of predictions made in the Old Testament, and write a fiction book about a series of events that satisfies every one of those predictions. That wouldn't make those predictions correct.

Also, the entire bible was written within a fairly restricted part of the world - we're talking Mediterranean and Middle Eastern countries, pretty much exclusively. Kind of funny how your god ignores the Americas, Eastern Asia, Australia, and most of Africa, not to mention the northern parts of Europe, and all of the island nations. So don't bother trying to convince me that it's somehow a worldwide creation.



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spaceguy on 27 January 2013

Calling the mayans dumb for believing in gods they could not see or mythical beings is calling the pot calling the kettle black. I got to that part and had to laugh. Thats what I think about chistians sometimes. I imagine knuckle dragging neanderthals. LOL Seems you didn't get banned for slamming another religion, I don't think anyone should get banned at all when they do so, if you allow religions you don't care about get slammed. Thats extreme biasism.

People still believe in mayan beliefs.



dsgrue3 on 27 January 2013

Oh my God, if I have to read another post from a religious shill pawning the fictitious Bible as some form of reference of truth or historical account, I'm going to scream.

1. No contemporary evidence for Jesus.
2. A virgin birth is beyond retarded.
3. Predicting future events in a book of fiction is not only plausible, it's expected.

How insulting to have to read these ridiculous assertions.



Player1x3 on 27 January 2013
Aielyn said:

 

 

Player1x3 said:
I know you're trying to be witty, but the Old Testament is written hundreds (if not thousands) of years ago before the New Testament (which is The Bible). And that's a historic fact. And given that it was written by different people from different areas around the world, i really fail to see your point..		  

Not trying to be witty. I'm making an important point.

It's not hard for a book to satisfy the predictions of an older book. I could go ahead, compile a list of predictions made in the Old Testament, and write a fiction book about a series of events that satisfies every one of those predictions. That wouldn't make those predictions correct.

Also, the entire bible was written within a fairly restricted part of the world - we're talking Mediterranean and Middle Eastern countries, pretty much exclusively. Kind of funny how your god ignores the Americas, Eastern Asia, Australia, and most of Africa, not to mention the northern parts of Europe, and all of the island nations. So don't bother trying to convince me that it's somehow a worldwide creation.

What are you talking about ? You don't believe Babylon ruled Judea for 70 years and later failed in 539 BC, that Jesus existed and was later crucified and that Romans destroyed the Temple of Jerusalem ? Im sorry, but these aren't fictional events, they are historic facts that were correctly predicted by prophets in The Bible many years before happening. And if you deny these events ever happening, i'll just have to point a finger at your post and hysterically laugh at your ignorance of the most basic history 

I don't see what Australia has to do with this topic, but whatever...



Player1x3 on 27 January 2013
ultima said:
Player1x3 said:

I can see that the omniscient Creator of Universe definitely needed some ''tech''to impregnate a woman while keeping her virgin... it's not like he's God or anything...

 As for the highlighted part, that's exactly the reason why such comments shouldn't be made. But as long as despicable people exist, they unfortunately will be.

Well, that so called "omniscient Creator" couldn't apparently create a world without evil but with free will. So yeah, it looks like the so called "omniscient Creator" has to abide by laws of the world. And laws of the world state that for this Mary to get pregnant, she must've had a sperm penetrate her. The only way for her to have stayed a virgin during pregnancy is if she had someone jerk off on her private parts without penetrating her. Or something along those lines.

"Which is more likely: that the whole natural order is suspended or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie?" David Hume

God didn't create world with evil. Evil is absence of good, and that comes from human free will, which is 1 thing God doesn't have a control over. Evil comes from humans, not God. And the fact he created the very fabric of our existence tells us that he doesn't have to abide any laws from it. That's like saying a machine made by man dictates the man's functions, not the other way around 



Aielyn on 27 January 2013
Player1x3 said:
What are you talking about ? You don't believe Babylon ruled Judea for 70 years and later failed in 539 BC, that Jesus existed and was later crucified and that Romans destroyed the Temple of Jerusalem ? Im sorry, but these aren't fictional events, they are historic facts that were correctly predicted by prophets in The Bible many years before happening. And if you deny these events ever happening, i'll just have to point a finger at your post and hysterically laugh at your ignorance of the most basic history

I don't see what Australia has to do with this topic, but whatever...

Wow, you have proof that all of these:

a) actually happened, and

b) were actually predicted in the original texts, rather than the texts possibly being altered.

There was a person who went by the name of "Jesus", who was crucified by the Romans. But then, I'm pretty sure that the old testament never predicted a person called "Jesus" (or rather, "Yeshua", since that's the actual name). It predicted a person called "Emmanuel". There is not a single instance in the Bible of Jesus being referred to by the name "Emmanuel".