This was my first step in the argument. Read my follow-up on parents legally administering it to kids based on what they want their kids to be.

Is Altzeimers normal? Is Depression Normal? Is Schizophrenea Normal?

They occur randomly in a small percentage of the population, but is it normal? If it were normal, why would we search for treatments to these normal occurances?

Do you agree that the above 3 are disorders? Do you agree that they affect a persons freedom and ability to make decisions?

Is Homosexuality any different?

Altziermers makes you incapable of memory, and forces you to live a certain way. Deperession forces you to always be gloomy, and not able to enjoy yourself as much as your mind would like it to. Schizophrenea alters your sense of what's real, which makes you make decisions which are bizarre. Does homosexuality not prevent you from heterosexual relationships? For those wishing to live Heterosexual lives, does it not restrict their freedoms?

if we could change it we could probably also make a straight person gay, maybe it will be possible anytime, who knows... and no, i don't see the reason why anyone would want to change other peoples sexual orientation as long as the "rules" are the same when it comes to the age of gay and straight people allowed to have sex with each other or whatever else the rules are for straight people.

if someone who is gay would want to be straight it would be ok to change that for this person but not to do that to people who want to be gay.

why fix something not broken???????

Nope. I think such conditions give a different view on things. Same with conditions such as Introversion and Aspergers. Introversion is experienced by fewer of the population, but accounts for a greater share of the brilliant minds of the time.

From what I've read on left-handed ness, it's a biologically determined orientation. You are born left handed because of some biological factor before birth, and you remain left handed as a result.

However this raises a great question. Left Handed-ness is a biologically sources condition (not really a disorder). Say homosexuality was a similar condition (which I believe it is), why bother fixing it?

My opinion is that it should be an option for those who want to fix it, but if people wnat to remain left handed or homosexual, it's their choice to do so.

So you don't think homosexuality is some kind of disorder, but you want to "cure" it?

I'm not homosexual, and I don't want to force anyone to become heterosexual, but I would like the option to exist. I know a few homosexuals, and a couple of them want to live heterosexual lives, but they are pretty weird/stressed because of it.

The reason I made this thread is because I do view homosexuality as a biological disorder (and I;m surprised to see so many people think it's not a bio/psych disorder), and because I'm curious if the gay accepting community of VGC want to cure the condition.

It's a bit different. Certain issues (such as the ones you mentioned) directly affect your ability as a person and your capabilities. Being born a redhead (which is rare), however, doesn't.

Homosexuality falls somewhere in the middle. It doesn't really stop you from doing what you want (assuming you don't want a hetero relationship, which would be weird since you're gay) but it does inhibit your capabilities for procreation (in that you are wired to not want to have sex with the opposite gender).

nvm, Meant to quote someone

How can you cure something that isn't ill?

LOL okay, that's a good way to look at homosexuality in a positive manner. To a degree, I agree, I like shopping with homosexuals, they tell me what I look good and bad in, where girls tend not to tell you what you look bad in.