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Would a GCN2 sell?

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S.T.A.G.E. on 12 January 2013
Mensrea said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mensrea said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mensrea said:

If you had read the OP you would have seen that replacing the Wii was not what I was suggesting, but you are content to come in give your typical "Nintendo is for babies" comment and leave. 


Tell me...when did Nintendo first tug at your heart?

Read this to find out where Nintendo aimed with the Wii.

http://mynintendonews.com/2006/04/19/nintendos-new-target-audience/


This is not even the conversation we are having, I believe that fans were left out in the dust with the Wii, and that they do make some casual focused games, but ultimately they make a lot of games that have a lot of appeal to core gamers. Posting an article from a obsuce site doesn't give your claim any more grounds. Please try to read my OP and contribute to a conversation focused on Nintendo. If you feel like you would rather just talk about how they only make games for families and children, that fine, just start your own thread, because that discussion is not for this one.


I dont disagree that some of Nintendos hardcore fans were left in the dust with the Wii. In my eyes the most core fused Nintendo console was the N64 once a large portion of the third parties left. First party tends to grow when they leave, because as a company they are left to fend for themselves. Nintendo has to stay relevent and they did what they had to (whether I cared for their offerings or not...which sadly I didn't with the Wii). They've seen the error of their ways and are looking to come back to the core with the Wii U, but the problem there in is their launch offerings were aiming for an audience thats already spoken for, which is why certain parts of the holiday season they might have been outsold. Nintendos existence has to be about giving gamers something that cannot be found anywhere, if they stick to this and stick with the core the Wii U will weather the storm of next gen. I do agree that they lost sight of their core audience until E3 2010 when they showed off a slew of games. Possibly their best offering for the Nintendo core that I had seen in four years since their launch.


I agree with everything you said here. To me, a Nintendo console will be a secondary console. I know it won't have all the third party offerings that I really want to play, but to make up for that, it has to have a lot of content that can't be found anywhere else. The Wii U hasn't shown much of that yet, and that's why it's not selling that well.

 

I think that this status quo could be changed if they released another console with the Gamecube philosiphy/ third party support.


I agree that Nintendos consoles have become secondary consoles. Personally, they became my secondary consoles since the 64 and the Cube. I enjoyed both perfect haromy with my Playstation's and Xbox. Playstation has always been my primary console until this gen, the 360 took over, but Sony took it back in 2009.  Sony has a knack for fighting a special place in my living room.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 12 January 2013
DieAppleDie said:
No, the damage is done
The average 70 I.Q guy will keep skipping Nintendo forever


...and what of those with an IQ above 70?



S.T.A.G.E. on 12 January 2013
Wander_ said:
I really don't understand your Q. Technically speaking the WiiU is a modern day Gamecube


I still say it looks like an IPad and a Xbox 360 controller had a baby.



Lostplanet22 on 12 January 2013

The games okay...But as an console I did not really liked it; The DC was better and I loved the Xbox harddrive. No Memory card! Awesome! but GC did nothing for me. Only liked gameboy and N64 from Nintendo..



 

Mensrea on 12 January 2013
Wander_ said:
I really don't understand your Q. Technically speaking the WiiU is a modern day Gamecube


Not really. It will be quite underpowered in comparison to the Nextbox and PS4. Not to mention the tablet controller being an obvious appeal to the casual crowd. 

 

The gamecube was very poweful for it's time, and the majority of it's games were aimed to that core base. 

 

It's all about the philosophy change.




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DieAppleDie on 12 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mensrea said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mensrea said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mensrea said:

If you had read the OP you would have seen that replacing the Wii was not what I was suggesting, but you are content to come in give your typical "Nintendo is for babies" comment and leave. 


Tell me...when did Nintendo first tug at your heart?

Read this to find out where Nintendo aimed with the Wii.

http://mynintendonews.com/2006/04/19/nintendos-new-target-audience/


This is not even the conversation we are having, I believe that fans were left out in the dust with the Wii, and that they do make some casual focused games, but ultimately they make a lot of games that have a lot of appeal to core gamers. Posting an article from a obsuce site doesn't give your claim any more grounds. Please try to read my OP and contribute to a conversation focused on Nintendo. If you feel like you would rather just talk about how they only make games for families and children, that fine, just start your own thread, because that discussion is not for this one.


I dont disagree that some of Nintendos hardcore fans were left in the dust with the Wii. In my eyes the most core fused Nintendo console was the N64 once a large portion of the third parties left. First party tends to grow when they leave, because as a company they are left to fend for themselves. Nintendo has to stay relevent and they did what they had to (whether I cared for their offerings or not...which sadly I didn't with the Wii). They've seen the error of their ways and are looking to come back to the core with the Wii U, but the problem there in is their launch offerings were aiming for an audience thats already spoken for, which is why certain parts of the holiday season they might have been outsold. Nintendos existence has to be about giving gamers something that cannot be found anywhere, if they stick to this and stick with the core the Wii U will weather the storm of next gen. I do agree that they lost sight of their core audience until E3 2010 when they showed off a slew of games. Possibly their best offering for the Nintendo core that I had seen in four years since their launch.


I agree with everything you said here. To me, a Nintendo console will be a secondary console. I know it won't have all the third party offerings that I really want to play, but to make up for that, it has to have a lot of content that can't be found anywhere else. The Wii U hasn't shown much of that yet, and that's why it's not selling that well.

 

I think that this status quo could be changed if they released another console with the Gamecube philosiphy/ third party support.


I agree that Nintendos consoles have become secondary consoles. Personally, they became my secondary consoles since the 64 and the Cube. I enjoyed both perfect haromy with my Playstation's and Xbox. Playstation has always been my primary console until this gen, the 360 took over, but Sony took it back in 2009.  Sony has a knack for fighting a special place in my living room.



lol, your making my day I for example didnt need the PS2 at all, the GC had most multiplats, plus exclusive RE and unmatchable 1st party PSX was a must because of the RPGs and RE PS3 on the other hand....... And Msoft started making consoles?Really?



osed125 on 12 January 2013

The Gamecube (as the original xbox) had the PS2 to compete with, but now that the PS brand is not as big as it was before a GC2 could do a lot better in terms of sales. Marketing was a problem during the GC era, and based on the Wii U it looks like that wasn't going to change. 

In terms of 3rd party support it would be hard to tell, the GC had decent 3rd party support (at least compare to the Wii), so I think a GC2 would have the same amount of 3rd party games. I think a modern GC would be a moderate success, obviously a lot of variables, but if I had to guess maybe a little lower to the current PS360 in terms of sales.



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Veknoid_Outcast on 12 January 2013

I don't understand. GCN didn't really deliver for Nintendo, so why would the same philosophy work ten years later?

GCN was a really good, under-appreciated system, but it didn't speak to consumers. And a GCN2 wouldn't either. Nintendo needed to build on the legacy of Wii with Wii U, but make it built to last. It's still too early to tell, but I think they've done that. Wii U is an HD console with a much-improved online infrastructure, a new kind of controller, and a pretty revolutionary social network. I think it's on the right track. When I play it, I feel like I'm experiencing video games in a new way. And that's really exciting.

Also, can we PLEASE stop saying Nintendo is for kids. And families. And soccer moms. And people with bad taste. And "casual" gamers. Please. Nintendo is for people who love video games. Same as Sony and Microsoft.



Mensrea on 12 January 2013

So here is an updated scenario.

Gamecube 2- Normal controller, designed aesthetic similar to Wii/Wii U, as powerful if not more so than the PS4 and Nextbox, Decent online, several of Nintendo's more core IPS (Metroid, F-Zero, Starfox, Zelda), updated wii mote to appease casuals/ for games that work well with motion, Third party exclusives, and all the big multiplats. Around 350-400 dollars at launch.

I think it would do MUCH better than the Gamecube. PS2 essentially sucked the life out of everything else, and the Gamecube had a few quirks that really held it back, overall though it was a very core focused system. I think that the GCN2 would sell well.




DieAppleDie on 12 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DieAppleDie said:
No, the damage is done
The average 70 I.Q guy will keep skipping Nintendo forever


...and what of those with an IQ above 70?



...some will and some wont depending on their (good or bad) tastes...