I don't get it, of course.

Way to shift the argument after being proven wrong. You said I didn't get a clue because E3 doesn't have mobile games. You were wrong.

iOS also has a ton of games that Vita don't have. Gonna take a long time before your comment just now holds any weight.

Please, prove where I grasped at straws or how I don't gt it. Last I checked I keep putting out facts while you claim I'm wrong while putting up nothing at all but your personal opinion.

I'm on my iPhone. If possible, could you cut down the quote tree?

Thanks in advance.

Uncharted alone sold me the Vita.

Still, I get your point and I somewhat agree that it needs these system sellers. However, they shouldn't copy Nintendo games per se.

You haven't proven anything, you're just picking at straws.. You've agreed that idevices has the ability to play games which I also agree with, and that PS Vita is a dedicated gaming machine, but yet you still go on.

I also said Vita will eventually get those mobile games that you're so passionate about on your idevices. Jetpack Joyride is already one of them amoung others that will eventually make its way into the ps mobile store. Give it time, there is nothing the PS Vita can't do that android or ios can do.

Well I got a vita because I was interested in many games. However I do think the ps vita needs...well the ps vita game. Sony should be making an IP that is brand new, something for the vita, kind of like pokemon. Not a pokemon copy, but like Pokemon it should be a type of game you rarely see anywhere else. They could also revive old Sony games and make them ps vita exclusives...like Syphon Filter, MediEvil. I also think Vita could have a cool rts game.

I keep going on? The current conversation now is based on a question YOU asked me. Hell, I suggested we take it to my wall if fhe discussion needed to continue. I even separated posts to get us back on topic, so don't play that game with me. You are just as guilty considering you ignored those posts and instead decided to continue this discussion within this thread.

You say I grasp at straws with naming games outside of E3 and claim I don't get a clue because E3 has none, which is why you asked. You were proven wrong. Now you continue to say I don't get it. How do I not get it when everything you claim I prove wrong?

I don't get what? That iDevices are suddenly proper gaming devices like I said from the start? Soul Sacrifice not being on iPhone proves nothing except iPhone has no buttons or that iPhone doesn't have games made by SCEJ. Now, if buttons = proper gaming device is your real argument then it is a poor one.

Jetpack and Cut The Rope are also only (2) games. IOS is bigger than that. They all won't arrive on Vita and you know that.

The conversation should end here as it clearly isnt going anywhere.

Forgive me for saying so, but it doesn't matter what games, or types of games the Vita has on the menu. They might discourage ownership, but they will never encourage ownership either. Sony is charging a premium for their product that consumers refuse to pay, and with damned good reason might I add. They are selling a portable for the same price as a actual console. A substitute or a whittled down version should never cost as much as the original in the eyes of your average consumer, and they actually have a pretty good point there.

Three hundred dollars for the Vita and a game. Goes way beyond a impulse buy. It is the very definition of a real hard sell, and one most consumers aren't going to be able to justify. Not in the way they can justify buying older, cheaper, or customizable platforms. Seriously the Vita is money being poorly spent. I am sorry if anyone is taking that personally, but for most people that kind of money can go a long way to buying more practical or extravagant electronics. The price just isn't matching the need.

Recently I started thinking about getting a portable gaming device, and I actually looked into getting a Vita, but I couldn't even look past that price point. I am actually looking towards picking up a tablet, because if I am going to spend that kind of money a portable device better damn well do more then play games. The Kindle Fire is actually looking way more attractive right now.

I agree that its games aren't valuable enough to the public. That's why my philosophy is if Sony wants some system sellers they need to make console ip sequels exclusive to Vita. Heavy Rain 2, Uncharted 4, Infamous 3, and Shadow of the Colossus 2 as proper sequels exclusive for vita are the only true system selling games Sony could make.

Your right but its a hard choice! If sony puts Uncharted 4 (which is one of top IP they have) exclusive for Vita, That push hardware easily up, say a mil around 3months (which is great for just one game pushing) and it gets 1.5mil software, which is excellent for its user base. Problem is on PS3 they can make over 5times the amount IMO. Games will stay at $60, way bigger user base, and i think people perfer home console. Jus saying its smart but Sony needs the money and probably go with another spinoff 1st then a main series on Vita

It's a tough business choice but a no brainer if they desperaitly need to increase Vita sales without a price cut. Uncharted 4 would be the biggest gamble with also the biggest reward. Due to the relativly good sales of Golden Abyss yet less than stelar reviews this is Sony's smartest move in my opinion. The game would cost less than Uncharted 3 to develop (due to the smaller screen) and would could sell millions with heavy bundling. Also since Uncharted 4 would have to be on the PS4 instead of the PS3, there is not really a lost profit potential.