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KungKras on 06 January 2013
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
And of course people are going to blame it on smarthphones, ignoring that the 3DS and Vita aren't exactly the strongest handheld offerings of all time...


if you we're a dad and your kid asked you for a gaming device and you had to choose between a 200$ handheld plus 50$ for every game or a 399$ IPHONE with free games and 1$ games plus it's a phone.

What would you choose?

i would choose an iphone without even thinking about it.

If you were a dad, and you kid asked you for a gaming device, and you had to choose between a SNES with $60+ games or a commodore 64 with much cheaper games (on disc or cassette or whatever) pus other functionalities what would you choose?

Thing is, kids don't say "daddy I want a game platform". They will say "daddy I want Pokemon".



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man-bear-pig on 06 January 2013
Nsanity said:
The games on Smartphones and Tablets are pure shit, so why do people keep buying them?


There's some great games on smartphones and tablets. They're fun, free and frivolous.

Also, as the specs of smartphones and tablets increase, the quality of the games released for them will also increase.



My prediction threads:

Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)

PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)

Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right

Halo 4 first 9 weeks sales prediction

PS4 to be down YOY in 2015

Wander_ on 06 January 2013
KungKras said:
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
And of course people are going to blame it on smarthphones, ignoring that the 3DS and Vita aren't exactly the strongest handheld offerings of all time...


if you we're a dad and your kid asked you for a gaming device and you had to choose between a 200$ handheld plus 50$ for every game or a 399$ IPHONE with free games and 1$ games plus it's a phone.

What would you choose?

i would choose an iphone without even thinking about it.

If you were a dad, and you kid asked you for a gaming device, and you had to choose between a SNES with $60+ games or a commodore 64 with much cheaper games (on disc or cassette or whatever) pus other functionalities what would you choose?

Thing is, kids don't say "daddy I want a game platform". They will say "daddy I want Pokemon".


Kids don't care about graphics all they wanna see is a little guy on screen moving and they will be happy. Am i right or am i right



man-bear-pig on 06 January 2013
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
And of course people are going to blame it on smarthphones, ignoring that the 3DS and Vita aren't exactly the strongest handheld offerings of all time...


if you we're a dad and your kid asked you for a gaming device and you had to choose between a 200$ handheld plus 50$ for every game or a 399$ IPHONE with free games and 1$ games plus it's a phone.

What would you choose?

i would choose an iphone without even thinking about it.

If you were a dad, and you kid asked you for a gaming device, and you had to choose between a SNES with $60+ games or a commodore 64 with much cheaper games (on disc or cassette or whatever) pus other functionalities what would you choose?

Thing is, kids don't say "daddy I want a game platform". They will say "daddy I want Pokemon".


Kids don't care about graphics all they wanna see is a little guy on screen moving and they will be happy. Am i right or am i right


You are right.



My prediction threads:

Wii U will sell under 40m units (made on 14th September 2012)

PS Vita will sell under 20m units (made on 30th September 2012)

Wii U will sell under 7m in 2013 - I was right

Halo 4 first 9 weeks sales prediction

PS4 to be down YOY in 2015

Nsanity on 06 January 2013
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
And of course people are going to blame it on smarthphones, ignoring that the 3DS and Vita aren't exactly the strongest handheld offerings of all time...


if you we're a dad and your kid asked you for a gaming device and you had to choose between a 200$ handheld plus 50$ for every game or a 399$ IPHONE with free games and 1$ games plus it's a phone.

What would you choose?

i would choose an iphone without even thinking about it.

If you were a dad, and you kid asked you for a gaming device, and you had to choose between a SNES with $60+ games or a commodore 64 with much cheaper games (on disc or cassette or whatever) pus other functionalities what would you choose?

Thing is, kids don't say "daddy I want a game platform". They will say "daddy I want Pokemon".


Kids don't care about graphics all they wanna see is a little guy on screen moving and they will be happy. Am i right or am i right

Would bright, attractive colors fit in the same category?



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Ganoncrotch on 06 January 2013
Nsanity said:
The games on Smartphones and Tablets are pure shit, so why do people keep buying them?


They're free or cost $1 pretty much, they're not great in many cases they're not even what you would consider an actual game but still shovelware basically to millions and millions of devices which cost nothing to slap together still makes some money. Not everything does tho, I think it's something like 61% of all apps on iOS have never been downloaded, so not everything is an Angry Birds or a Plants V Zombies..... infact those are kinda the only 2 which are :D



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Wander_ on 06 January 2013
Nsanity said:
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
And of course people are going to blame it on smarthphones, ignoring that the 3DS and Vita aren't exactly the strongest handheld offerings of all time...


if you we're a dad and your kid asked you for a gaming device and you had to choose between a 200$ handheld plus 50$ for every game or a 399$ IPHONE with free games and 1$ games plus it's a phone.

What would you choose?

i would choose an iphone without even thinking about it.

If you were a dad, and you kid asked you for a gaming device, and you had to choose between a SNES with $60+ games or a commodore 64 with much cheaper games (on disc or cassette or whatever) pus other functionalities what would you choose?

Thing is, kids don't say "daddy I want a game platform". They will say "daddy I want Pokemon".


Kids don't care about graphics all they wanna see is a little guy on screen moving and they will be happy. Am i right or am i right

Would bright, attractive colors fit in the same category?

Yup and the IPHONE got all of it. Don't get me wrong i'm not defending APLLE i'm just stating the facts



Ganoncrotch on 06 January 2013
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
Wander_ said:
KungKras said:
And of course people are going to blame it on smarthphones, ignoring that the 3DS and Vita aren't exactly the strongest handheld offerings of all time...


if you we're a dad and your kid asked you for a gaming device and you had to choose between a 200$ handheld plus 50$ for every game or a 399$ IPHONE with free games and 1$ games plus it's a phone.

What would you choose?

i would choose an iphone without even thinking about it.

If you were a dad, and you kid asked you for a gaming device, and you had to choose between a SNES with $60+ games or a commodore 64 with much cheaper games (on disc or cassette or whatever) pus other functionalities what would you choose?

Thing is, kids don't say "daddy I want a game platform". They will say "daddy I want Pokemon".


Kids don't care about graphics all they wanna see is a little guy on screen moving and they will be happy. Am i right or am i right

Speaking as someone who played games when I was 4-5 I can tell you it does matter, heck even today my 6year old Nephew loves Luigi in mario Kart and played Luigis mansion because the character was the same he liked.... not every child can be amused by flashing light apps, nor does every parent want them to be.



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KHlover on 06 January 2013

3DS did pretty well. If the Vita manages to step up its game this year, it should be fine. 3DS sales are even higher than NDS sales at its time, so its really just the PSV.



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DanneSandin on 06 January 2013

I think the handheld market is facing the same problem as the home consoles will face next gen; no new adopters. DS was what the Wii was for the casuals, and PSP was what PS360 was for hard core (very simplified and generalized). Both the handheld and home consoles had monster generations, which the like we might not see again for a while.

Long story short: dedicated game systems ain't going nowhere for a while. They might not sell as well as in the 7th gen, but they will continue to sell well.



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