JayWood2010 said:
bananaking21 said:
there are a number of factors you really did add. the PS3 did lose a lot of money when launched correctly but they started making a profit at about when they sold 30M consoles. that means that 42 million consoles sold had made profits and we really dont know how much it made back and if it did cover its loses yet. also PS3 was one of the main factors that popularized BlueRay. something that we cant really know how much money it made for sony and will continue to make. also the ps3 gave birth to PSN, which is now an extremely succsesful online service, and thats not something easy to make, just look at nintendo. also the lose of market share this gen resluted in sony pushing their efforts within their first party support and just look at how they are now. media molecule, guerrilla games have made a name for them selfs this gen. quantic dream has also made great relationships with sony and naughty dog made a name of them selfs as one of the best. if not the best developers in the indusrty. it depends on how you look at the PS3, in the long term PS3's successes will make their money for sony, BR and PSN are both thanks to PS3 and those things will helpe sony ALOT in the long term. also PS3 will probably end up with atleast 90 million sold, considering that about 60 million would have made profit against the 30 million that didnt, it doesnt look so bad
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I have no problem with you which is why I quoted him :P But what I'm saying is it is not successful like he says. PS3 has done some good things but out of all three companies they are the ones who has fell the most. People make a number of consoles sold as into a contest but in reality profits are what a company looks at and I can safely say Wii and 360 has most likely made a lot more profits than the Ps3 because of foolish mistakes they have made. That is what i was saying to him
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i qouted you because your one of the few people on this site who actually want to have an intellgent conversation. and yes its about money mostly, but numbers do have an effect on money, from what i seen is that announcments, milestones and rumers can effect a stock of a company, heck even gamestops stock sunk over sony just making a petent. the thing in when console sales are high it might effect stock and if sony announce it outsold the 360 that might help. and yes its about money so im really baffled sometimes that say console sales now dont matter, when in the case os 360 and ps3 are probably the most profitable and lucrative.
and thats what im also trying to say is that we cant really calculate how much profits are down to the PS3 because we really cant know BR profits or the profits that will be made from PSN in the long run. i have no doubt MS made more money than sony so did nintendo. but sony did build more foundations to make future profits, and thats my main point