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TruckOSaurus on 10 December 2012
hatmoza said:
TruckOSaurus said:
hatmoza said:
What animal makes a squawk sound?



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theprof00 on 10 December 2012
Barozi said:
theprof00 said:
Barozi said:

The dropoff is 58% and that's exactly between 1/2 and 1/3 but nowhere near 1/4. Besides, many big games have huge (50%+) drops in its second week.

Also if the first week is 450k and that only 2 months before Christmas, no one would think that it's not gonna make 1 or 2m anytime soon. Sure LBP did more than expected, but it's not comparable to any other PS3 game right now, not even its own sequel.

Launch LBP now and it would do much worse. Not this year or next but in the long term due to the new consoles.

Again I don't know what games you're referring to but are you expecting for example PSASBR to do LBP like or even only half the numbers with W1 sales of 131k (still a bit overtracked according to NPD) and W2 sales of 35k ?
W1 sales were 29% of LBP's W1 sales. Even expecting the same incredible legs (selling good amounts in 4 years - > 2016) would mean 1.46m sales in 2016 and that is really the best case possible.

is that your prediction?

howbout you give me yours ill give you mine, and we'll come back to it?

howbout loser makes a thread saying they were wrong?

So you want us to come back to this thread in either 2016 or when PSASBR hits 1.47m ?
Dude we're never going to remember that let alone find the thread.

I don't even know your position on this issue as all you've ever said was that nobody should judge LT sales based on FW data.

All i'm gettong from this response is that you have no confidence in your own argument.

Oh, and I'LL remember, becuase i dont forget people who talk shit.





theprof00 on 10 December 2012
sales2099 said:
theprof00 said:
sales2099 said:
Week Ending Dec 1 2012.

98 Forza Motorsport 3
99 Diablo III PC Activision
100 PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

lol /thread


according to vgc who has undertracked ps3 and software by nearly 20% these past two weeks, and vita by 100%.

also does not include digital, which sony stats show, for full ps3 game sales as being 25% of revenue on psn, where psn makes 50% of all their game sales revenue, which means that there is likely 25% more copies sold digitally, and likely undertracked ww, if slightly overtracked in usa.

Your grasping at straws, and making excuses. Im talking results. If you can't deal in results, then your point and thread is dead.

lol the irony is absolutely exquisite.

You can't even stay on topic. You started talking about sequels when your first counterpoint was countered.

You are a parody of yourself today sales, friend.





sales2099 on 10 December 2012
theprof00 said:
sales2099 said:
theprof00 said:
sales2099 said:
Week Ending Dec 1 2012.

98 Forza Motorsport 3
99 Diablo III PC Activision
100 PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

lol /thread


according to vgc who has undertracked ps3 and software by nearly 20% these past two weeks, and vita by 100%.

also does not include digital, which sony stats show, for full ps3 game sales as being 25% of revenue on psn, where psn makes 50% of all their game sales revenue, which means that there is likely 25% more copies sold digitally, and likely undertracked ww, if slightly overtracked in usa.

Your grasping at straws, and making excuses. Im talking results. If you can't deal in results, then your point and thread is dead.

lol the irony is absolutely exquisite.

You can't even stay on topic. You started talking about sequels when your first counterpoint was countered.

You are a parody of yourself today sales, friend.

lol I allready won.

98 Forza Motorsport 3
99 Diablo III PC Activision
100 PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

You: Bubububu t3h digital sales. (Which we cant track)

This thread showed RETAIL sales to prove a point. I countered that this game is flopping hard at RETAIL. Defeated, your referring to DIGITAL sales that we dont track and Sony doesn't tell.

So please, why dont you stay on topic.



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sales2099 on 10 December 2012

24th November 2012 1 130,541 N/A 130,541
01st December 2012 2 35,275 -73.0% 165,816

Week 2. Kinda destroys your thread now with LBP sales as an example. Undertracked. Perhaps. But you picked a bad time to prove a point.



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mantlepiecek on 10 December 2012
sales2099 said:
theprof00 said:
sales2099 said:
Week Ending Dec 1 2012.

98 Forza Motorsport 3
99 Diablo III PC Activision
100 PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

lol /thread


according to vgc who has undertracked ps3 and software by nearly 20% these past two weeks, and vita by 100%.

also does not include digital, which sony stats show, for full ps3 game sales as being 25% of revenue on psn, where psn makes 50% of all their game sales revenue, which means that there is likely 25% more copies sold digitally, and likely undertracked ww, if slightly overtracked in usa.

Your grasping at straws, and making excuses. Im talking results. If you can't deal in results, then your point and thread is dead.

I hope this isn't a new "strain" of PS3 fan responses when their exclusives flop.....saying its sold mostly on digital (which we can't track), essentially having no numbers to back you up and hiding behind Sony which never discloses digital sales numbers.

Remember the PS2 days....you guys were actually tough then!

This post is so ridiculously stupid.

1) You address PS3 fans.

2) You talk about PS2. This implies PS3 fans = PS2 fans. Which is not always true.

3) Hence your final statement is stupid, just like your entire post.

The OP made a point that you can't declare a game dead because of it's first week sales. Plenty of proof for this - it is not just LBP, GT5 is also another one. Many were surprised it "only" sold 1 million week 1. Guess where it is now.



sales2099 on 10 December 2012
mantlepiecek said:
sales2099 said:
theprof00 said:
sales2099 said:
Week Ending Dec 1 2012.

98 Forza Motorsport 3
99 Diablo III PC Activision
100 PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

lol /thread


according to vgc who has undertracked ps3 and software by nearly 20% these past two weeks, and vita by 100%.

also does not include digital, which sony stats show, for full ps3 game sales as being 25% of revenue on psn, where psn makes 50% of all their game sales revenue, which means that there is likely 25% more copies sold digitally, and likely undertracked ww, if slightly overtracked in usa.

Your grasping at straws, and making excuses. Im talking results. If you can't deal in results, then your point and thread is dead.

I hope this isn't a new "strain" of PS3 fan responses when their exclusives flop.....saying its sold mostly on digital (which we can't track), essentially having no numbers to back you up and hiding behind Sony which never discloses digital sales numbers.

Remember the PS2 days....you guys were actually tough then!

This post is so ridiculously stupid.

1) You address PS3 fans.

2) You talk about PS2. This implies PS3 fans = PS2 fans. Which is not always true.

3) Hence your final statement is stupid, just like your entire post.

The OP made a point that you can't declare a game dead because of it's first week sales. Plenty of proof for this - it is not just LBP, GT5 is also another one. Many were surprised it "only" sold 1 million week 1. Guess where it is now.

Cool story. We moved past this. Im actually countering him now.



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Barozi on 10 December 2012
theprof00 said:
Barozi said:
theprof00 said:
Barozi said:

The dropoff is 58% and that's exactly between 1/2 and 1/3 but nowhere near 1/4. Besides, many big games have huge (50%+) drops in its second week.

Also if the first week is 450k and that only 2 months before Christmas, no one would think that it's not gonna make 1 or 2m anytime soon. Sure LBP did more than expected, but it's not comparable to any other PS3 game right now, not even its own sequel.

Launch LBP now and it would do much worse. Not this year or next but in the long term due to the new consoles.

Again I don't know what games you're referring to but are you expecting for example PSASBR to do LBP like or even only half the numbers with W1 sales of 131k (still a bit overtracked according to NPD) and W2 sales of 35k ?
W1 sales were 29% of LBP's W1 sales. Even expecting the same incredible legs (selling good amounts in 4 years - > 2016) would mean 1.46m sales in 2016 and that is really the best case possible.

is that your prediction?

howbout you give me yours ill give you mine, and we'll come back to it?

howbout loser makes a thread saying they were wrong?

So you want us to come back to this thread in either 2016 or when PSASBR hits 1.47m ?
Dude we're never going to remember that let alone find the thread.

I don't even know your position on this issue as all you've ever said was that nobody should judge LT sales based on FW data.

All i'm gettong from this response is that you have no confidence in your own argument.

Oh, and I'LL remember, becuase i dont forget people who talk shit.

That's pretty ironic since you haven't even made ONE prediction in this thread.

See what I've underlined in the quote ? Where is it ?

You criticize me for not having confidence in my prediction (which is not true, it's just stupid to do a bet that lasts 4 years), yet you haven't even the balls to show me one.



mantlepiecek on 10 December 2012
sales2099 said:
mantlepiecek said:

This post is so ridiculously stupid.

1) You address PS3 fans.

2) You talk about PS2. This implies PS3 fans = PS2 fans. Which is not always true.

3) Hence your final statement is stupid, just like your entire post.

The OP made a point that you can't declare a game dead because of it's first week sales. Plenty of proof for this - it is not just LBP, GT5 is also another one. Many were surprised it "only" sold 1 million week 1. Guess where it is now.

Cool story. We moved past this. Im actually countering him now.

"Moved past this".

In ten minutes? How can you "move past" your belief?



sales2099 on 10 December 2012
mantlepiecek said:
sales2099 said:
mantlepiecek said:

This post is so ridiculously stupid.

1) You address PS3 fans.

2) You talk about PS2. This implies PS3 fans = PS2 fans. Which is not always true.

3) Hence your final statement is stupid, just like your entire post.

The OP made a point that you can't declare a game dead because of it's first week sales. Plenty of proof for this - it is not just LBP, GT5 is also another one. Many were surprised it "only" sold 1 million week 1. Guess where it is now.

Cool story. We moved past this. Im actually countering him now.

"Moved past this".

In ten minutes? How can you "move past" your belief?

In that im addressing his point and leaving my preassumptions aside for now.

Now please, leave me be as I await the OP to quote me in my other recent posts.



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