I agree with about Wii U having to prove that it can sell third party titles.  With rare exceptions, competing with Nintendo games on Wii has been hard for them.

That may be the reason some developers are showing some skepticism over Wii U.

In that case, expect the PS Omni and Xbox 8 to suffer early on while the Wii U does well at first but loses support around 2015.

I'd say that Wii U will sort itself out, with or without Nintendo.

Marketing is just... horrible. Hardly any one knows about it, and I've only seen the sucky ads on MTV, which is a piece of shit channel nowadays no one watches.

And half of everybody who knows what the Wii U is don't think it's stronger than PS360, so why buy it?

Nintendo has really dropped the ball. Wii U could have had much better momentum, which I think will come once people have gotten it, played it and started to talk about it. This console will sell by word of mouth because Nintendo is fucking stupid and don't know how to handle a good launch.

It's going to have Mario and Monster Hunter at launch, it should do fine.

I don't think that's possible, even if they made the system cost $1,000 at this stage. Eight cores is still pretty much the high end of processing, and last I recall, The 360 has a 3 core processor, and the PS3 has an 8 core processor.  At the very best, in a dual processor system, you can run 16 cores, and that's talking about a minimum of $400 just for the processors at that point.

The factors will mostly be RAM - both video and on the mobo, which will speed things along nicely no doubt, but still won't be something dramatically better than what's already out there. The video cards, no matter how good they get, are outputting to 1080p devices. So even if Sony pushes its 2k technology, it'll fall useless on pretty much all of the market. 1080p is going to be the max we see for a while, at least for this current/upcoming generation. In essence, the gaming world has hit a bit of a glass ceiling. The extra ram and more HD storage space will be nice, as we'll see higher quality textures and smoother polys, but I don't think anything is going to have a "wow factor" like the jumps between the past generations, the technology just doesn't exist yet to make it happen.

This is in fact wrong. The Wii U had TWO (2) days of sales that week. If you think 170k+ in 2 days is horrible and weak, then there's nothing that will save it...

Doesnt' matter. These Europe sales for Wii U include months of pre-orders. You really think sales will increase next week? I can tell you right  now they wont'. They'll decrease just like they did in America. This isn't a stock issue.

It needed to be saved even before launch. Even when I like the Wii U commercials, that's bad marketing compared to the Wii one. Also Wii has Twilight Princess.

Zelda >>>>>>> Mario

Not even in the same galaxy.

Doesn't matter? Let's talk about this NEXT week, THEN we'll know how it truly went down. US had the Wii U for almost a whole week, and it sold 410k, or something like that, and you mean to say that the bulk of those sales came from the first day or two?

What were first week sales, im to lazy to google it,