Yet the argument about Microsoft having a head start is one of the biggest cherry picking arguments of them all. People really don't put anything into perspective at all. They just care about where their brand is on some chart on a month to month basis and disregard the actual true facts about the situation.

It is all about market share and making money. You have Sony who was the established brand and Microsoft who was not the established brand. Microsoft in one generation was able to not only cut into Sonys market share by a large margin, but they almost tripled their sales from the previous generation.

So we can sit here and give Sony the tugg job because they finally in the last year of their console took over Microsoft and gave the fanboys someting to talk about, but when you look at the big picture which company actually moved forward and which company went backwards?

BTW when we get the holiday numbers in January I would bet my house that Microsoft goes back to being up by 2 million and it wouldn't surprise me if it was even more than that.

I'll take that house bet...

Sorry if it was mentioned later I know this is an oldish post and I'm just reading through all the comments butttt. Don't forget that a lot of kinect units are sold for use other than just playing games on kinect the thing has become the go to tool to be used in so many varieties of college project based around sensors and they even done a feature on AI powered robots on Penn and Tellers show which were constructed of 4 kinect units with propellers on them, I doubt the move would have so many types of other uses given the ease of hooking a Nintendo wii remote to a PC and how much longer they have been available for those type of projects.

That said tho against the Move, I'm 99% sure that sonys early figures were all based on sales of both the Move and the Navigation unit as 2 seperate sales of move hardware.

Edit - Sorry if unclear I was just stating that shipped units =/= install base at all.

Yep! It's been a strange generation. The beaten has become the one to beat and the unbeatable is more than beat.

with a price cut, GTA, God of war, The last of Us, beyong two souls, and metal gear along with other games like the next CoD and AC. its might sell 13 million next year. though its a bit of stretch. i would say 10-12 million. 

I say, take out a million or two b/c of the next gen consoles. 

Official or un official numbers? 

thismeintiel said: I have to not only congratulate Sony for coming back so strong after such a rocky start, but also congratulate MS for putting up such a good fight. However, this pretty much just cements the deal. The PS3 will surpass the 360. I'm guessing it will be sometime next year. The 360 may reclaim 2nd for a short while during the holidays next year, but once the PS3 takes 2nd place again, there's no turning back. Well, unless MS starts selling 360s for $50 a pop sometime soon. It's also pretty funny seeing all the damage control in this thread. Took me awhile to read it all. Can't wait for the first thread that announces the PS3 taking 2nd.

Yep, since XB360 Slim slowed the rate at which PS3 was filling the gap, I predicted too it would have reached 2nd place this way, but it looks like it will do it some years later than I thought.

And LOL @ the damage control bit!   

And just to avoid flaming too much, gratz anyway to both PS3 and XB360 for being so healthy in this late phase of their lives, unlike Wii, horribly crippled by Ninty itself far too early before next gen launch.

I think PS3 can reach that 13mil at the end of 2013.

FFXIV will boost it! You know, people love Final Fantasy.

And the countless other exclusives like GoW and the Last of Us! :O