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Dark_Lord_2008 said:

The original Star Wars trilogy rocked. The new trilogy, prequels to the original trilogy were mediocre. Now Star Wars has been sold to Disney and the next trilogy will more than likely be worse than the last trilogy. Star Wars has been milked so much over time and its quality has deteriorated over time.

Stars Wars franchise is to movies as Final Fantasy franchise is to video games. In the past they were great but now they are mediocre.

I think that your first paragraph here is dead on.  I don't understand why people automatically assume that a new trilogy will be an improvement over the last.  What is going to be the basis for the next three?  Lucas' film treatments I'm told.  If fans think that his last trilogy was bad , which actually dealt with a young Anakin Skywalker turning to the Dark Side, then how will the next trilogy improve with an over the hill group from the original trilogy or (even worse) a group that none of us know? 

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amp316 said:
 

  Do we really need to see Luke with a lightsaber in one hand and a walker in the other? 

Also, what's going to happen to Indy? 


You're assuming he will still be the main character...maybe in this trilogy Luke would be the equivilant of Ben Kenobi in ep 4 or Qui-gon Jinn....the elderly sage-type character who explains things (like the force) to the young protagonist (and the audience)...in that context an elderly Luke Skywalker would work.

 



amp316 said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:

The original Star Wars trilogy rocked. The new trilogy, prequels to the original trilogy were mediocre. Now Star Wars has been sold to Disney and the next trilogy will more than likely be worse than the last trilogy. Star Wars has been milked so much over time and its quality has deteriorated over time.

Stars Wars franchise is to movies as Final Fantasy franchise is to video games. In the past they were great but now they are mediocre.

I think that your first paragraph here is dead on.  I don't understand why people automatically assume that a new trilogy will be an improvement over the last.  What is going to be the basis for the next three?  Lucas' film treatments I'm told.  If fans think that his last trilogy was bad , which actually dealt with a young Anakin Skywalker turning to the Dark Side, then how will the next trilogy improve with an over the hill group from the original trilogy or (even worse) a group that none of us know? 

Oh wow!  This is my 10,000th post!  

I need to celebrate by eating some BBQ potato chips or something.

Congrats about your 10,000th post.

 

I'm not a big SW fan (actually, I'm not much of a fan at all). So I won't argue Disney will make better movies, though I do think the prequels are really bad and hard to "top" (in badness).

But anyway, from what I heard the third trilogy would deal with Luke's move to the dark side and the whole story repeating itself, closing a circle. That was Lucas's original intent at least I think.



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amp316 said:

I actually liked Revenge Of The Sith, so I do I am not 100% positive that these will be better.  Also, there's the problem with what the trilogy is actually going to be.  Is it going to involve Luke, Leia, and Han?  I'm assuming that they would be portrayed by the same actors.  Do we really need to see Luke with a lightsaber in one hand and a walker in the other?  They could do even worse and hire different actors.  Also, if it's just set in the Star Wars universe but later there will be a great disconnect because we won't be familiar with anything.  Also, remember the Black Hole?  Man was that cheesy.

Also, what's going to happen to Indy? 

Well, according to a few articles, the sequels are going to be SW VII, VIII and IX, and those continue the stories of Luke, Leia and Han.

From the Fox news article that wfz posted:
"The seventh movie, with a working title of "Episode 7," is set for release in 2015. Episodes 8 and 9 will follow. The trilogy will continue the story of Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Princess Leia beyond "Return of the Jedi," the third film released and the sixth in the saga.

Disney CEO Bob Iger said Lucasfilm had already developed an extensive story line on the next trilogy, and Episode 7 was now in early-stage development. He said he talked with Lucas about buying the company from him a year and a half ago, but they didn't decide on a deal until very recently as Lucas set in motion his retirement."

I'm not sure about the first paragraph, since I listened to both the Iger and Lucas videos, but I can't remember either of them mentioning Luke, Leia or Han, so the article may be speculating. However it's been known for the longest time that episodes 7 8 and 9 revolve around the three.

This article mentions that the movies won't be based off the Thrawn trilogy, but will be an original story.

http://ca.eonline.com/news/358685/star-wars-7-plot-will-be-an-original-story-says-lucasfilm-source

As for Indy, anything better than Indy IV will make me happy. As long as Spielberg is involved, I don't care who takes up the role. River Pheonix did a good job as young indiana jones, there must still be some good talent out there. :) Just not shia, I'm sick of that guy.



I like the move. Lucas is a childhood hero of mine, but he lost his movie-making touch years and years ago.

I don't worry about Disney's track history because it's not like the reanimated head of Walt Disney will be directing the next three Star Wars movies. As we saw with Avengers, if the studio executives make smart hiring decisions (and Whedon was a brilliant decision) then the movie will probably be good.

Disney has a many good directors to choose from, including Pixar alumni Brad Bird and Andrew Stanton.

I've always been a huge Star Wars fan, so I'm excited for a new feature film. The prequels left a very bad taste in my mouth, but I'm cautiously optimistic about Episode VII.



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By the way, I loved Babes in Toyland :)



happydolphin said:
amp316 said:

I actually liked Revenge Of The Sith, so I do I am not 100% positive that these will be better.  Also, there's the problem with what the trilogy is actually going to be.  Is it going to involve Luke, Leia, and Han?  I'm assuming that they would be portrayed by the same actors.  Do we really need to see Luke with a lightsaber in one hand and a walker in the other?  They could do even worse and hire different actors.  Also, if it's just set in the Star Wars universe but later there will be a great disconnect because we won't be familiar with anything.  Also, remember the Black Hole?  Man was that cheesy.

Also, what's going to happen to Indy? 

Well, according to a few articles, the sequels are going to be SW VII, VIII and IX, and those continue the stories of Luke, Leia and Han.

From the Fox news article that wfz posted:
"The seventh movie, with a working title of "Episode 7," is set for release in 2015. Episodes 8 and 9 will follow. The trilogy will continue the story of Luke Skywalker, Han Solo and Princess Leia beyond "Return of the Jedi," the third film released and the sixth in the saga.

Disney CEO Bob Iger said Lucasfilm had already developed an extensive story line on the next trilogy, and Episode 7 was now in early-stage development. He said he talked with Lucas about buying the company from him a year and a half ago, but they didn't decide on a deal until very recently as Lucas set in motion his retirement."

I'm not sure about the first paragraph, since I listened to both the Iger and Lucas videos, but I can't remember either of them mentioning Luke, Leia or Han, so the article may be speculating. However it's been known for the longest time that episodes 7 8 and 9 revolve around the three.

This article mentions that the movies won't be based off the Thrawn trilogy, but will be an original story.

http://ca.eonline.com/news/358685/star-wars-7-plot-will-be-an-original-story-says-lucasfilm-source

As for Indy, anything better than Indy IV will make me happy. As long as Spielberg is involved, I don't care who takes up the role. River Pheonix did a good job as young indiana jones, there must still be some good talent out there. :) Just not shia, I'm sick of that guy.

I don't personally care myself, but this is going to piss a lot of Star Wars fans off because Lucas himself has said that the Thrawn Trilogy was cannon.

The problem with Indy IMO is that they let it go on to the point with Harrison Ford where no one will accept another actor in the role.  They should have kept the series going with different actors like they did Bond.  Shia is awful and shouldn't return.    



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spurgeonryan said:
Harrison still has that twinkle in his eye. The only thing that saved it was Harrison. He made it work even with the horrendous writing and unplausible events that happened in the movie.


I think Spielberg never really understood what made his movies so likeable. They were based on things that could actually possibly happen. Even thought they would not ofcourse. But aliens? Come on! Russians in America? To that level. Come on! Forcing snakes in the film for a laugh...ok....but not in that way. Then Spielberg missed on the jokes. Motorcycle in the library to talking with a student about 8th century horticulture was not funny. Nuclear bomb, ants making ladders out of ants, ledouche swinging on vines for miles, sword fighting on perfectly aligned cars, Marian smiling like a ledouche herself and just driving off a cliff.

Harrison did not ruin the film. Spielberg and his lousy writers did. There are plenty of fresh talent in the industry these days. Let them have a swing.

You know that the lousy witer of the Indy films is Lucas, right?



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This is the way I look at it, Disney does a pretty great job with the majority of the movies they make. This wouldn't be a cartoon or on the disney channel, it would most likley be developed more like John Carter and The Pirates of the Caribbean. If they make it I expect it to be in high quality at least. I'm not a Star Wars fan but Disney is not a bad company so if anybody has a chance of helping it, it would be them. However if you want a good star wars movie, just let Christopher Nolan direct it haha Everything that guy makes turns to gold.




       

About Indy, they have already set the tone for any sequels I think. By introducing LaBeouf alongside Ford, I think they'll want to fase out Ford as he ages and make Labeouf the main character in the future. For what it's worth Indy 5 has an IMDB entry with Ford still in the role.
For the record, I didn't think Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was a bad movie, but I can see why a lot found it disappointing.