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Metallicube on 17 October 2012

Sure, why release your RPG on a console with a touch-pad screen controller, coming off a predecessor that is poised to sell 100 million units. That would make too much sense.



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PhantomLink on 17 October 2012
NintendoPie said:
PhantomLink said:

Remember that Wii also had a mainline non port MH and a DQ. MH audience is on handhelds not consoles. I don't think MH3U is gonna help Wii U getting more RPG (MH is not and RPG to begin with) . And Dragon Quest is an port of an online DQ, that's not gonna help much either. Perphaps DQXI (non online) would help but that's 3DS's bounded. When DQX was annouced for Wii a lot of people, including myself, thought that there's was going to be a lot of new RPG games for Wii but it didn't happen.

Both of those games were near the end of Wii's lifetime.

Two years and a half after the Wii launch is not at the end of lifetime and MHtri was a new game not a port. And DQX announcement was also in 2009



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outlawauron on 17 October 2012
Metallicube said:

Sure, why release your RPG on a console with a touch-pad screen controller, coming off a predecessor that is poised to sell 100 million units. That would make too much sense.


You can spin it that way, but I don't think the Wii's success is a good motivator considering both Tales games on the console did not sell big numbers.



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theARTIST0017 on 17 October 2012
PhantomLink said:

Remember that Wii also had a mainline non port MH and a DQ. MH audience is on handhelds not consoles. I don't think MH3U is gonna help Wii U getting more RPG (MH is not and RPG to begin with) . And Dragon Quest is an port of an online DQ, that's not gonna help much either. Perphaps DQXI (non online) would help but that's 3DS's bounded. When DQX was annouced for Wii a lot of people, including myself, thought that there's was going to be a lot of new RPG games for Wii but it didn't happen.

actually Monster Hunter is considered an action role playing game or a-rpg. so basically its a type of rpg game. i looked it up.



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NoirSon on 18 October 2012

The Tales Studio probably don't want to commit a long development cycle into a system they do not fully believe will be successful.

Bandai Namco are willing to port Tekken because that is easy, Nintendo is probably paying them and giving them a shot to do the next Smash Bros. But the Tales studio is smaller and if they make a HD game on the Wii U and it doesn't do well they will probably be in bad shape. Literally, only one of their games (Abyss) probably ever did well enough to break even between Symphonia and Xillia. I don't blame them for being cautious, many studios around the world have gotten shut down in the last few years due to bad alliances and games.



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Metallicube on 18 October 2012
outlawauron said:
Metallicube said:

Sure, why release your RPG on a console with a touch-pad screen controller, coming off a predecessor that is poised to sell 100 million units. That would make too much sense.


You can spin it that way, but I don't think the Wii's success is a good motivator considering both Tales games on the console did not sell big numbers.

One was a crappy spinoff and one was only released in Japan. I think an established franchise like Tales should at least sell decent on Wii U, if an entirely new IP like Xenoblade could put up strong numbers on Wii.



outlawauron on 18 October 2012
Metallicube said:
outlawauron said:
Metallicube said:

Sure, why release your RPG on a console with a touch-pad screen controller, coming off a predecessor that is poised to sell 100 million units. That would make too much sense.


You can spin it that way, but I don't think the Wii's success is a good motivator considering both Tales games on the console did not sell big numbers.

One was a crappy spinoff and one was only released in Japan. I think an established franchise like Tales should at least sell decent on Wii U, if an entirely new IP like Xenoblade could put up strong numbers on Wii.

Yes, but the port of Graces did far better on the PS3 (390k vs. 220k). That's why it's not a good comparison.



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ryuzaki57 on 18 October 2012
Soriku said:
ryuzaki57 said:
Like many publishers, Namco must be in a wait and see approach as for as WiiU. They need to know wether Nintendo can win back the core before developing anything like Tales which is a traditional franchise.

The majority of Tales fans are playing on PS3 (and 3DS) right now, they hardly have any urge to develop on another system. Tales of Xillia in Japan alone is bigger than Vesperia or Symphonia 2 worldwide. Tales of Vesperia/Graces sold twice as many copies as their counterparts on 360/Wii in Japan. Graces F already sold more than Symphonia 2 in the west despite Wii having a larger user base. How can a developing and uncertain WiiU user base do them any good?

But what could happen is Nintendo throwing money at Namco to get a timed exclusive that would be released later on PS3/4 with more content.


No it didn't. Last NPD totals we have for both games are around 64k for Graces F and 136k for ToS: DotNW. Not that this matters much though. Tales games are developed with Japan in mind, system included. Plus they actually said Graces F and Abyss 3D did sell well (for Abyss 3D they specified Europe though). Which is funny considering the numbers aren't that high. Localization for these games must be cheaper than we think...

Anyway, I doubt we'll see a Tales game on the Wii U anytime soon. Especially if Nintendo doesn't bring that Tales fanbase over, which is currently on PS systems. They put a lot of games on different systems this gen and that hurt them, but they've found a good base on the PS3. After they're done developing for the PS3, there's no reason to assume they'll skimp out on the PS4 with how successful the games are on the PS3.

If Nintendo wants a Wii U Tales game, they better build up that fanbase ASAP because I don't really see Namco diverging much after what happened this gen. At best I can see a Tales of Symphonia Wii U remake I guess. They made Abyss 3D for the 3DS but that's just a port and not indicative of future support for Nintendo. Though things are really different this gen, with the Vita being a bust at the moment and the 3DS is pretty much getting the PSP support and fanbase. So it'll be really interesting to see how they handle Tales games on handhelds and whether they'll focus on the 3DS, though they've already done an Innocence remake on the Vita.

How can you have 64K in the west when VGchartz shows a near 130K opening in the US alone? Can you share your NPD source?



 

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JTurner82 on 18 October 2012
Soriku said:

 At best I can see a Tales of Symphonia Wii U remake I guess.

I'm still not giving up on a WiiU Tales.  I still believe we'll see it someday.



outlawauron on 18 October 2012
Soriku said:
ryuzaki57 said:

How can you have 64K in the west when VGchartz shows a near 130K opening in the US alone? Can you share your NPD source?


Source is GAF. And VGC overtracks like every JRPG. One of the more notable examples is Valkyria Chronicles. VGC has it at 1.07 mil lol.

Ah, the omniscient GAF.



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