Incidentally, I'm fairly sure that Islam condemns homosexuality as sinful as well. Assuming you still identify as Muslim, how do you feel about the matter?

What I've always heard from Christians is that hell isn't literally fire and whipping and torture, it is simply the absence of God in your soul, and you make the decision yourself to keep God out of your soul, so you are the one condemning yourself to torture, not him.

I still don't think this really makes full sense, since being omniscient, He knows exactly what you are going to do anyway and therefore you don't have free will and thus he is the one condemning you to hell, but it seems less monstrous than the whole "disobey God and he burns you for eternity" thing.

Incidentally, I'm fairly sure that Islam condemns homosexuality as sinful as well. Assuming you still identify as Muslim, how do you feel about the matter?

Are you joking? The post above yours says it all.

If you also read my original quote you would also understand why things took the turn they did. Its funny how you claim to be a victim while considering to abort a child over its sexual orientation. Just the very thought, angers me enough to write volumes over how retarded religion is.

Are you either blind, illiterate or both? Where the fuck have i said i vas victim or that i would consider aborting a child over it's sexuality ??? All i said was that high majority of people in this thread said NO to the op question, so i really don't see where you got your ''religious discrimination bullshit. Maybe out of your biased hateful disrespectful ass?

And just cause you cant recognise it, doest mean im attacking you. Another characteristic of religious people is thinking that cause they got a faith, no one can question it. Wrong buddy.Yet this thread was never about questioning someones faith, it was about moral stance on abortion and sexuality.Not on whether or not God is real But i guess you're too ignorant and hateful to grasp that. Someone having different belief than you must drive your arrogant, megalomaniacal, fundamentalist ass insane so you have to let everyone else here know how superior your heavenly intellect and views and how everyone else's is a complete crap, just because you, the unquestionable absolute master of the universe disagree with it. If you were not ready to hear the truth, the way it really is, maybe you shouldnt be reading my posts nor be in a forum. I don't know how to make this clear enough. Your posts are the biggest bullshit arguments i have ever read in my entire life and are possibly the furthest possible thing from the truth ever to be typed by a human hand. I've heard some good points from atheist side on this very forum, but yours cant be even remotely considered to be anywhere near a good argument  Also your case is terrible, you basically behave like zombies.Thats cute. And you're all pasty, overfed, underfucked, greasy , self loathing, arrogant, ''i got fucked by a priest'' egoistical, neck bearded mom's basement dwellers. Hooray for insulting generalizations and attacks! There is no proof and no logic to the existance of god, yet you let religious talk dictate your life, just like the charlattons that started it intendedThere are certainly tons of logical theories that lead to the existence of God, im just not going to discuss them here (not with you anyway). It is off topic and has nothing to do with the OP.

The only reason this thread was ever created and this question was posed was religion. If there was no religion this question wouldnt even be asked as no one would be thinking about the possibility.Yet there are people in this very thread who said they weren't religious and still choose 'yes' option...Guess reading sentences isn't your strong point. Religion condemns same sex relation. did you know same sex relations werent something that just started nowadays? It existed back  in greece and Rome. Back then it wasnt questionable and people wouldnt kill over it.Great...except that once again, I'd have to point to the fact that majority of religious people here said no to the question. Once again, you're grasping at straws just so you can have something to hate against religion. Also what about the Roman and greek gods? Were they all lies? What makes your one god any more believable? The fact it requires less blind-faith? Or the fact that science managed to prove how these aspects behaved in a logic way?1. Learm the difference between pantheism and monotheism/deism and then come back before trying to appear clever, kid. BTW, my views on God are deistic, not biblical. What happens to your God once we prove that there was no ulterior force behind creation?2.Oh you mean your ''everything came out of nothing'' nonsense ? Yeah, that's kinda already been disproven by both logic and science .The level of intelligence in both your belief and the ancient roman and greek on their own time is exactly the same. You dont understand it, thus it must be a God.3.Oh, no, I'll gladly accept every new scientific theory / fact supported by evidence, i just don't think they in any way disprove the existence of a higher power. Your brain makes these links cause if gives everything a cause and for what it doesnt have enough information, it creates a story that will make it believable.

I don't even know why i bothered responding to the last 3 points. I won't justify my beliefs and views to a person such as yourself any further, tho i have no doubt that you're gonna respond to them (after all, your sole purpose in this thread is to flame and insult people 's beliefs) you just won't be getting a new reply from me on them, so don't bother typing

I am sad to say, but religion only exists cause people are not well informed enough and their brain makes a fairy tale for them.

No. Free will means you have a choice, not uncertainty. If you dont eat you know you will be hungry. If you go for a swim you know you will get wet. These are certain. But it is your choice to do these things. Just because God knows what you are going to choose does not mean you don't have a choice.

"Can God create a boulder so large that not even He can lift it?" -> Two problems with this question. 1. God is not male or female. 2. God is not a physical being like in religious paintings.

Its not a possibility, its a fact that the greek gods arent real, as i proved just a few posts ago. They also have in common they are worshiped by humans, theres no proof of their existance on their respective times and also that they conviniently have human spokesmans with very vague speeches. I really dont get what this has to do with macro evolution given it only affects humans and multi-verses i dont even know what you're sugesting... maybe that they can exist in another dimension? Its again very arrogant to think that what you think can come into physical existance cause you thought about it. That would actually make us, the gods. Lets try to keep the insanity limited to the universe we know to be real.

The only thing that changed is that the story is easier to believe if theres one single god, instead of several bickering. One lie, is easier to believe in than 10 differrent ones. It still doesnt change where the lie camefrom though. The story might change a bit, but the end persona is still the same, as you admited "super-human" power.

So, instead of 10 you got 1 god. Why would it not be still a fabrication? Why should i believe this time, if the last one is proven to be a lie?

The arrogance argument is applicable in all options (deism and atheism). The reason is that  a deist would be arrogant to consider himself the center of the universe (which isn't true anyways), as much as the atheist could be arrogant for considering not needing a God to exist, were that true (which is a poor accusation but it's as valid as yours).

Anyways arrogance does not indicate veracity (or the absence of it).

The possibility was from the point of view of Christianity. It's only possible if it's true that Yahwe is a fabrication of the human mind, which unlike your "proof" of the greek gods being so is far from proven to be a pure fabrication, we won't even get into that.

As for proof of God's existence, there is substancial proof but I'm not interested in that debate with you.

Also, the vagueness of anyone's speech does not prove anything. Someone can be vague due to the resistance of the listener, someone can be vague because he is lying, while another is vague because he prefers the litterary style of something that is less exact. Vagueness, again, proves nothing.

This has to do with macro evolution and multi-verses in that, to me, that is a fairy tale and you have NO way to prove to me the contrary, as I have no way to prove to you that God is real. They each have their evidence and need to be considered individually, not sweepingly like this.

The idea of God being super-human doesn't make the concept a lie. There is little foundation to your logic.

It's not because one is "proven" or even convincingly false that another one is... For example Christianity involves a historical figure (Jesus and the apostles and disciples), we can read about them. The Greek gods also have this (homer's Odysee and the Illyad), but they are not as reliable for instance as the biblical texts. Not to mention that much of Jewish history is embedded in  biblical narrative.