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Forums - Nintendo - Reggie interview: Wii U will have a very long life period + good third party support

Chandler on 09 October 2012
ryuzaki57 said:
Chandler said:
ryuzaki57 said:
Chandler said:
Soundwave said:
Chandler said:
How many third party exclusives did the PS3 and Xbox360 get? Especially in the last 2 years? The Wii U already has like 10 of them in their launch window alone, excluding any digital exclusives of course. Admittedly, some of them get published by Nintendo but it's contract work with third parties, MS and Sony could do the same. People wanted Nintendo to step up and it looks like they did.


Launch window in the long term is somewhat inconsequential.

The key period for the Wii U is what happens afterwards.

You don't need a 1000 exclusives like I said. But 3-4 Bayonetta 2 sized exclusives every year from year 2-4 of the console cycle are important, and these exclusives should be "demographic broadening" .... meaning not "Mario _____".

Once Nintendo can get that they'll be OK, but until they do they're always going to have this problem with droughts. They haven't had a single console that had a really steady flow of content since the SNES, and that was 20 years ago now.


It would be nice if you could list the 3-4 Bayonetta sized third party exclusives that the PS3 and Xbox360 got every year until now because I have a feeling those are some very unrealistic expectations concerning Nintendo that not even the other two could satisfy.

You don't get it. This is not PS3vs360vsWiiU, it's WiiU vs the rest of th world. Nintendo has to get gamers back. PS3 and 360 are already installed on the market and every game not releasing on WiiU (Dishonored, Medal of Honor Warfighter, Tomb Raider, etc. there are about 40 major games like that) is a reason to pick a PS3 or a 360 rather than a WiiU. WiiU needs many (not just 2 or 3) Bayonetta 2-sized exclusives if it wants to resist the overwhelming flow of PS360 games in 2013.

Btw, isn't the US getting the ZombiU bundle? Reggie said two bundles.

This may be true for now, but both Sony and MS have to launch new consoles in the upcoming years and they do need to distinguish themselves from the competition. I just don't think it's fair to say that it's enough for Sony and MS to roll with the multiplats but Nintendo needs to invest in an unreasonable amount of exclusives to stay afloat. There are not many people surfing the web on their consoles so it's reasonable to expect most people to own a PC (1). And PC+Wii U is a more desirable combination over PS3+PC (2) or 360+PC in my opinion due to much less overlap.

I'm not saying Nintendo doesn't need exclusives but I think Nintendo shouldn't be singled out on this topic.

(1) Few of those actually have a PC that can run major games like Battlefield 3 or Crysis 3. People don't automatically get the most powerful PC in the shop. They are more like to buy a reasonably cheap PC as long as it meets their basics needs (surfing, working, etc.). People who have that kind of strong PC are PC gamers first who care little about consoles to begin with. 

(2) Not necessarily. With PC+WiiU, you miss the super-majority of japanese RPGs (Lightning Returns, Tales of Xillia 1&2, etc.) and I don't remember the PC version of Rising Revengeance and Ground Zeroes being confirmed either.

My PC is 2 years old and I paid sub 500€ back then and it can run everything PS360 can but better. There is practically no computer today that couldn't run PS360 quality games. That's not a high end PC at all. I'm pretty sure I could get another 500€ PC in 2 years that could run all the PS720 games just fine.

 

Your second point is list wars. Of course there will be some games that people will miss out on but it could very well shift. Wii U could ensure with Monster Hunter and Dragon Quest that the majority of JRPG's shift back in Nintendo's direction. Ground Zeroes could very well go multiplat including Wii U and so could Rising. But even if not, I might have to cry myself to sleep not playing those games and settle for Bayonetta 2 and The Wonderful 101 instead. There will alwqays be games you are missing out on if you don't own all consoles but in my opinion, if you skip the Nintendo console, you are missing a lot more, especially with the Wii U if aou look how things are shaping up right now.



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DanneSandin on 09 October 2012
spurgeonryan said:
@ danne


They just need to push for these 3rd party games from the start and don't stop until 3rd parties are happy.

Agree 100%



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DanneSandin on 09 October 2012
VicViper said:
DanneSandin said:

Man, that looks sooooo good!!! I espacially want XenoBlade in HD - looks gorgeous!!!


Yeah, they look awesome! Like I said, unless there's an improvement in TV's resolution, which is highly unlikely... games will look at least great, nowhere ugly as wii games in HD TVs. Here's some more:

 

 

 

 

It's funny to say this, but at a proper resolution this one above here is a graphics king, imo.

Only way for me to see that they weren't meant as HD is the textures... It really looks great! It goes to show how much a difference HD can make! No one WiiU is gonna look as bad as Wii compared to PS720!!



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VicViper on 09 October 2012
DanneSandin said:

Only way for me to see that they weren't meant as HD is the textures... It really looks great! It goes to show how much a difference HD can make! No one WiiU is gonna look as bad as Wii compared to PS720!!


Stop quoting me, or I'll keep posting them! Why? Because Im addicted to their awesomeness!



Pavolink on 09 October 2012
VicViper said:
Pavolink said:
Why disspointed, Vic?


I am?





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DanneSandin on 09 October 2012
VicViper said:
DanneSandin said:

Only way for me to see that they weren't meant as HD is the textures... It really looks great! It goes to show how much a difference HD can make! No one WiiU is gonna look as bad as Wii compared to PS720!!


Stop quoting me, or I'll keep posting them! Why? Because Im addicted to their awesomeness!

Well, I'mgonna keep quoting you as long as you posts those awesome pictures! :D

People saying that WiiU ain't gonna look good next gen really should take a look on these pictures. Some are 2 gens old and look really really good!



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VicViper on 09 October 2012
pezus said:


This begs the question why you didn't start doing that years ago (playing your Wii games with Dolphin). No need for the U

My Wii games? I don't have a Wii.
I'm buying the Wii U for the gamepad and its possibilities mostly. I really admire what the DS did to gaming and I think the same is going to happen with home consoles.

Second, my computer just now is capable of running dolphin (I think, I'm happy to play X-com with mostly everything on high) - but maybe not, as I think it needs lots of power.

Third, emulate those things is complicated and trial and error.

Fourth, why would this mean no need for Wii U? Games are not resolution, even though resolution makes games way prettier, like I showed



WindyCityHeat on 09 October 2012

What is he supposed to say, It will fail like the wii failed... Yeah his job is to be positive.

Lets just get this thing released then after a few.months it'll be clear what the situation is lol.



DanneSandin on 09 October 2012
WindyCityHeat said:
What is he supposed to say, It will fail like the wii failed... Yeah his job is to be positive.

Lets just get this thing released then after a few.months it'll be clear what the situation is lol.

Oh, shit! Have you called for an ambulance or anything?! If you have medication you really should take it, like, right now!! I think you're ill =/ you're hallucinating mate! Wii WON the gen and didn't fail at all. You really should have a seat and take some deep breaths.... Maybe that'll clear things up for you



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rutea7 on 09 October 2012
happydolphin said:
rutea7 said:
I'll wait at least 3 years and see what happens

You always have and always will say that, no matter what Nintendo does it would seem.

Is there anything Nintendo or a 3rd party could release on it that would make you buy it sooner? Otherwise, your post is applicable to 100% of threads on Nintendo's direction with WiiU.

yes i'll always say it and i'll stick to it cause so far i'm unimpressed and i like to be careful where i spend my money. most of the games i buy and i'm interested in for the ps3 are 3rd party exclusives. i dont care for the 1st party titles that much i only have a few. so if i see another system getting the games i want i'll obviously be insterested in that system.

nintendo tends to make a lot of promises but so far i'll wait and see. i think it will need a bigger hdd or an external storage solution if it gets a good digital market. so far i like the hardware but i need to see good support from the companies i care about of course.

i didnt buy my ps3 until 2009 cause i was waiting for the games and i'll stick to that philosophy for any console.