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@Benga, no you forget the hypocritical pro-life stance of 'you can't kill a fetus' 'but it's cool to kill innocents in war, let people die due to improper health care, or turn a blind eye to starving people on the streets'.



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Stillwell said:
Rath said:
Stillwell, if you don't want to join in the debate just get off the post.

Its annoying having you around insulting people for their opinions.

There is nothing to debate.

And I really don't care what you find annoying.

If you're not here for the debate then why are you here?  Leave us alone rather than disrupt the discussion with flamebait attacks that serve no purpose other than insult.  Unless you think calling someone a "fanatic lunatic" is likely to sway him to your cause. 

 



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jlauro said:
BengaBenga said:
jlauro said:
BengaBenga said:
I understand both opinions, but I have one remark:

If you think it's wrong to have an abortion just don't do it, but give others the choice to perform an abortion if they have a different opinion.

This way everyone's happy right?


Everyone except the 126,000 aborted babies per day, and those that empathise with with those little ones still under development.


So what's better: An aborted baby or a baby that's born in a family that doesn't want it or cannot financially take care of it. I don't know cause I'm not God, that's why I think everyone should decide this for him/herself.

 


That may be an excuse in some third world contries, but most places have government social programs for such situations, or independant charities to help. There are also more people willing to pay the expenses so they can adopt a baby that in countries like America that is just a cop-out.


if i may ask where did you get the 126000 abortions a day from?


From google, by searching for abortions per day, which took me to the follwing site as the first link: http://www.abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html

If you  have a sorce/stat you trust more, feel free to share it.



Kasz216 said:
jlauro said:
BengaBenga said:
jlauro said:
BengaBenga said:
I understand both opinions, but I have one remark:

If you think it's wrong to have an abortion just don't do it, but give others the choice to perform an abortion if they have a different opinion.

This way everyone's happy right?


Everyone except the 126,000 aborted babies per day, and those that empathise with with those little ones still under development.


So what's better: An aborted baby or a baby that's born in a family that doesn't want it or cannot financially take care of it. I don't know cause I'm not God, that's why I think everyone should decide this for him/herself.

 


That may be an excuse in some third world contries, but most places have government social programs for such situations, or independant charities to help. There are also more people willing to pay the expenses so they can adopt a baby that in countries like America that is just a cop-out

Do you live in america?


If someone wants a kid that badly they could always adopt any of a large amount of kids in foster care and orphanages.

Not to mention the fact that if abortions were illegal many people would try to keep the kid, knowing they can't afford it leading to more kids in the foster homes and orphanages.


 Yes, I live in America.

Unfortunately, most people who want a kid that badly want to start raising it from the beginning.   It is very difficult to adopt a child <1 year old as demand exceeds supply.  It's kind of like how some people never wantto buy things used, but much more so...

 

There are tons of resources available for pregnant teens in America.  Just search for problem pregnancy.

Here is a couple of links that you can give to people who can't afford a baby but don't want an abortion:

http://www.lifecall.org/

http://www.epigee.org/pregnancy/resources.html

 

If those don't work out, let me know and I'll personally help or find someone who can. 



"@Benga, no you forget the hypocritical pro-life stance of 'you can't kill a fetus' 'but it's cool to kill innocents in war, let people die due to improper health care, or turn a blind eye to starving people on the streets'."

Once again, if you want to snipe on the subject of the iraq war, make your own thread to do so.

And there's nothing innocent about Saddam Hussein and his former army. The only people bombing innocent civilians over there are insurgents bombing iraqi's. The US government doesn't intentionally bomb innocent civilians.

But again, if you want to discuss this topic, make your own thread.



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jlauro said:
Kasz216 said:
jlauro said:
BengaBenga said:
jlauro said:
BengaBenga said:
I understand both opinions, but I have one remark:

If you think it's wrong to have an abortion just don't do it, but give others the choice to perform an abortion if they have a different opinion.

This way everyone's happy right?


Everyone except the 126,000 aborted babies per day, and those that empathise with with those little ones still under development.


So what's better: An aborted baby or a baby that's born in a family that doesn't want it or cannot financially take care of it. I don't know cause I'm not God, that's why I think everyone should decide this for him/herself.

 


That may be an excuse in some third world contries, but most places have government social programs for such situations, or independant charities to help. There are also more people willing to pay the expenses so they can adopt a baby that in countries like America that is just a cop-out

Do you live in america?


If someone wants a kid that badly they could always adopt any of a large amount of kids in foster care and orphanages.

Not to mention the fact that if abortions were illegal many people would try to keep the kid, knowing they can't afford it leading to more kids in the foster homes and orphanages.


 Yes, I live in America.

Unfortunately, most people who want a kid that badly want to start raising it from the beginning.   It is very difficult to adopt a child <1 year old as demand exceeds supply.  It's kind of like how some people never wantto buy things used, but much more so...

 

There are tons of resources available for pregnant teens in America.  Just search for problem pregnancy.

Here is a couple of links that you can give to people who can't afford a baby but don't want an abortion:

http://www.lifecall.org/

http://www.epigee.org/pregnancy/resources.html

 

If those don't work out, let me know and I'll personally help or find someone who can. 


I don't agree with you, but I honestly admire your drive!



 bit much 100.000x300=30.000.000 a large country is being aborted a year:/



46 million actually according to that website.



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I am pro-life as I believe life to begin at conception, not at some trimester or birth. Although, I do wonder what my stance would be if I were a woman. And even more so, if I was a pregnant teen.



 

 

Final-Fan said:
46 million actually according to that website.

it may seem a bit hard but if an extra 46 million people would walk the earth, it will be f*cked up much sooner