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jonnybmk on 20 September 2012
Kresnik said:
jonnybmk said:

First thing I found - but we all know I'm right.

PM me for futher discussion, thanks.


I'm good, I'll see you in next week's sales thread for your regular "3DS great, Vita awful" post.

If that's what the sales numbers dictate, then yes, you will see that. (I expect to see "the big games haven't come out yet", as well.)

Thanks for playing.



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Farsala on 20 September 2012
jonnybmk said:
pezus said:
jonnybmk said:
pezus said:
jonnybmk said:
3DS continues to dominate! As an ambassador, I love seeing that.

I feel really bad for Vita right now. After that little spike from Miku, it has just continued to fall.

Is the Vita a flop a'la the Virtual Boy?

Not even close, I don't get how you get that idea...Virtual Boy didn't even manage a million units sold. Vita is at 2.5m+ without a Christmas holiday in the West (not to mention the biggest games are yet to come out)...

I've been reading that since a month after the Vita's launch (and they weren't talking about the games you are talking about).

Oh? Which games were they talking about? And why did you only address that part of my post? 

Resistance: Burning Skies

Madden NFL 13

Unit 13

MLB 12: The Show

Disgaea 3

Metal Gear Solid HD Collection

Gravity Rush

Sound Shapes

Mortal Kombat

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I only addressed this part of your post because it was the only "new" thing added. I asked a question about the Vita, you gave me your opinion, life goes on. I neither agree nor disagree with your assessment.


Seriously none of those were expected to do great numbers, except by fanboys. Their are fanboys and their are the people who actually make logical predictions. If I listened to fanboys then apparently littlebigplanet for vita will do over 3 million in its 1st year.



benao87 on 20 September 2012

It appears that being backwards compatible is helping 3DS, at least in Japan, they really shifted from one console to the next. And, after TGS, seeing all those games PSP/PSV one can only start to blame a rough transition for the low PSV sales, they could be at least a couple thousands higher.



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Barozi on 20 September 2012

Everything up now



jonnybmk on 20 September 2012

NSMB2 continuing to top the charts I guess I was right when I said it was one of the really big huge games that would sell really big and huge and be a system seller.



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Herolink7 on 20 September 2012
benao87 said:
It appears that being backwards compatible is helping 3DS, at least in Japan, they really shifted from one console to the next. And, after TGS, seeing all those games PSP/PSV one can only start to blame a rough transition for the low PSV sales, they could be at least a couple thousands higher.


Japan is usually the fastest to adopt new hardware. DS sales dropped low when 3DS launched, and even lower when it got a price cut. However, the PSP is still getting plenty of games while Vita has barely any game releases, so it's not so surprising the former is constantly out-selling the latter.



jonnybmk on 20 September 2012
axumblade said:
pezus said:

Yes, and you were wrong for even making a comparison. Disrespectful to the glorious Vita.

And uh...an HD collection was going to be huge for the system? It's always been about Cod, AC of the announced games. Both are coming soon.

I'm personally interested on how Disgaea 3, basically a port of a game that didn't hit 1 million copies is viewed to be a savior of the system...He seems to have a problem determining the difference between internet hype and real world sales.


Incorrect.

I read on more than one occasion where people would say, "Just wait till Disgaea comes out!" after some other title that failed to move units came out.

You're a little late to the party here and should read from the beginning of the thread to figure out just what exactly I was stating.



jonnybmk on 20 September 2012
axumblade said:
jonnybmk said:
axumblade said:
pezus said:

Yes, and you were wrong for even making a comparison. Disrespectful to the glorious Vita.

And uh...an HD collection was going to be huge for the system? It's always been about Cod, AC of the announced games. Both are coming soon.

I'm personally interested on how Disgaea 3, basically a port of a game that didn't hit 1 million copies is viewed to be a savior of the system...He seems to have a problem determining the difference between internet hype and real world sales.


Incorrect.

I read on more than one occasion where people would say, "Just wait till Disgaea comes out!" after some other title that failed to move units came out.

You're a little late to the party here and should read from the beginning of the thread to figure out just what exactly I was stating.

I was giving you the benefit of a doubt since I did read your earlier statements. If you'd like, you could give me some sources....

Since you are using "several sites" as your references, I would love to see these sites you are referring to. :)

Dude. The point is, some game is out in the future. Fanboys say that that game is the next "big one". That game comes and goes, and then they look at the next yet-to-be-released title and say that game will do it.

It hasn't panned out yet and it's quite comical to watch these games come and go and be told how that one will be the next hot shit.

I'm not going to track down posts for you.

Either you somehow haven't noticed this or have chosen to ignore it.

Either way, we'll start fresh with CoD and AC for the Vita. Those are the current "big time hardcore sellers that coming soon" and we'll see how everything works out.

I won't forget this thread and will use it as my "source" after the 2-3 week "boost" they provide.

Sound good?



jonnybmk on 20 September 2012
axumblade said:
jonnybmk said:
axumblade said:
jonnybmk said:
axumblade said:
pezus said:

Yes, and you were wrong for even making a comparison. Disrespectful to the glorious Vita.

And uh...an HD collection was going to be huge for the system? It's always been about Cod, AC of the announced games. Both are coming soon.

I'm personally interested on how Disgaea 3, basically a port of a game that didn't hit 1 million copies is viewed to be a savior of the system...He seems to have a problem determining the difference between internet hype and real world sales.


Incorrect.

I read on more than one occasion where people would say, "Just wait till Disgaea comes out!" after some other title that failed to move units came out.

You're a little late to the party here and should read from the beginning of the thread to figure out just what exactly I was stating.

I was giving you the benefit of a doubt since I did read your earlier statements. If you'd like, you could give me some sources....

Since you are using "several sites" as your references, I would love to see these sites you are referring to. :)

Dude. The point is, some game is out in the future. Fanboys say that that game is the next "big one". That game comes and goes, and then they look at the next yet-to-be-released title and say that game will do it.

It hasn't panned out yet and it's quite comical to watch these games come and go and be told how that one will be the next hot shit.

I'm not going to track down posts for you.

Either you somehow haven't noticed this or have chosen to ignore it.

Either way, we'll start fresh with CoD and AC for the Vita. Those are the current "big time hardcore sellers that coming soon" and we'll see how everything works out.

I won't forget this thread and will use it as my "source" after the 2-3 week "boost" they provide.

Sound good?

My point is that not all of those games listed were even remotely hyped as a saving grace. Some of them were disappointments in sales overall but things like Disgaea and MLB aren't known for selling millions in the first place. And unproven new IPs like SoundShapes and Gravity Rush don't tend to sell millions either unless they are on a console that has sold millions of systems already. LBP, AC, and CoD might only have a few week boosts, but those are games that can at least be cited as reasons people may buy the system. Not ports of older games and unproven franchises. 

The reason I brought up internet hype is because there are a lot of websites where the sites have devoted following towards one game and will tout how excited they are for a game, and that game will not sell millions of copies (i.e. Disgaea, MLB: The Show, Persona, Tales of series, Fire Emblem, Alan Wake, Ratchet & Clank, the list goes on and on). Some of these games you would think should be selling as much as Call or Duty or Assassin's Creed, but it's simply not going to happen.


Well tell that to the dilusional fanboys that said "The big games haven't come out yet!" and cited those games.

I knew they weren't going to sell shit but I also don't want to crush the hopes and dreams of the fanboys.



jonnybmk on 20 September 2012
axumblade said:
jonnybmk said:


Well tell that to the dilusional fanboys that said "The big games haven't come out yet!" and cited those games.

I knew they weren't going to sell shit but I also don't want to crush the hopes and dreams of the fanboys.

That's another thing....stop referring to people as fanboys. They're entitled to their opinion, you're entitled to yours as well. But there is no reason to disrespect them just because they don't share the same feelings you share.


Alright.