2D platformers are not my type of game even if I do enjoy them for breif periods. The only IPs I still some what enjoy from Ninty are Pokemon, Zelda and Mario Kart and Pokemon is only on hanhelds. Halo is more fun than all those alone. Gears is a solid IP as well as well as fable. 2nd party exclusives are way better from left for dead, the witcher 2, and Mass Effect.

This thread isn't really meant for me, since I am a Nintendo fan. But I have to say that it's really annoying to see the reactions of certain persons on the net, crying over the fact that Nintendo managed to get some top notch exclusives from third parties. Saying that Nintendo only does kiddy or family oriented stuff, and that they're the only ones succeeding on their hardware as an argument against AAA exclusive titles is a really ridiculous argument.

I mean, Nintendo know that they have to do something to get third parties on board with products catering to core gamers. People complained during the Wii's life cycle because third parties wouldn't provide them with serious gaming experiences... Haters were hating on Nintendo because "the Wii had no core games" and the likes. And all core game exclusives were on either or both of the HD twins... Now that Nintendo is showing hints that they've learn some, they hate them because their new console will get games that won't be available to them...

Being a gamer of all platforms, this doesn't affect me personally. But I think the situation is quite ironic when you think about it.

I do hope Nintendo secures more third party exclusives for the Wii U. Even if their first party offerings are more than enough reasons for me to get their systems.

I personally can't wait to play ZombiU and maybe try Bayonetta 2 (if they toned down the orgy of sexual innuendos a notch...).

Not hypocritical. There's a difference between saying "this lineup should be compelling to current PS360 owners" and just saying "this is a good launch lineup." You're right that the former statement is false, but the latter is true, because console launch window lineups usually suck: first six months of 360 the best game was probably Project Gotham Racing 3 (with Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero being solid enough), first six months of PS3 the best thing was probably Resistance, and in the cases of both consoles it was heavy on ports (like Black and CoD2 for 360, or Oblivion and CoD3 for PS3) On a pound-for-pound basis, Wii U has a "better" launch window lineup than pretty much any console dating back to the GameCube (which saw games like Smash Bros Melee in the first six months)

Oddly enough, I had this fight with some guy on youtube.  He was trashing the Wii U for not having a killer app at launch.  I was saying that the last console that had a killer app on day one was the original Xbox.  Then the whole thing devolved into "Twilight Princess was a killer app", "No, Twilight Princess was on the Gamecube so it was a multi-plat.", "No, a game made by the same company can't be a multi-plat, even if it's on MULTIPLE PLATFORMS!"

God, I hate youtube.

The only thing that surprised me was Bayonetta 2 for the WiiU only. Not because of the exclusivity per se, but because the developers are treating like crap the gamers that supported their first game.

The WiiU can have all the exclusives they want, and I wont give a damn, as long as any other companies don't follow this nonsensical stupidity. Releasing a new IP on certain consoles, and make the sequel exclusive for another one, in which gamers don't give a damn about that genre, and don't know what the fuck the franchise is about; is just brilliant (not).....LMAO

Now this franchise does not exist for me anymore, nor any other "Platinum games + Sega" title, because they may end up doing the same thing again. If they don't show me, as a costumer, respect; then I wont have any respect to show them, and they wont get my money. I know it is bit radical, but what Sega allowed this time is pure crap.

The other news about the specs, and the other exclusive games and ports are unimportant for me, because I dont give a damn about mario, zelda, pokemon, metroid, etc. For me the 1st party exclusives Sony develops are the games I need, and enjoy. And I am sure, that the games 360 users get, are what they enjoy the most, and most dont give a damn about nintendo franchises.

I think that the console will fail, because it´s main "appealing" factor is the gigantic controller, that I find it quite annoying if you need to look at 2 screens at the same time if you want to get "the whole" experience of the game. And for those who say..."you can play the games with the other controller", so according to them it is just a PS3/360,....... why would I be interested in that, if I already have one?

Moderated,

-Mr Khan

nah i was talking about your post... which when you think about it makes a lot of sense because anyone who was not impressed with what has been showed so far also complained about bayonetta 2 right?