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DaRev said:

Your point:

1) thats doesn't deny the FACT that there  is a devine father and he had rules in place long before you,...came of age.

2) correct, to an extent. Because god's teaching are both physical and spiritual at the same time. So some can be explained scientifically, like man being created from the Earth, but others like the existance of a Hell, well science might have some trouble sorting that out, for that, my friend, you'll need spiritual discernment.

You are living in a fairly tale right now, if you believe you can look to science for every answer you need, science, which contradicts itself every moment it 'discovers' something new. Oh, and in case you missed the point, Christians believe in science to, so we are complete. People like you on the other hand lack something, non-physical, and thus are incomplete.

Fact? Just because you believe something to be true doesn't make a fact. I think this clip sums up my point nicely (skip to past 20 seconds).



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spurgeonryan said:
DaRev said:
SecondWar said:

Been wondering how one of OoSnap's thread keeps getting bumped to the top, normally they die after a few days. Seems Pezus and DaRev are keeping it going.

@Pezus: Have you ever read anything by Christopher Hitchens? From reading you posts think find it quite interesting.


Christianity + Nintendo will survive on this formum - I have found my calling! ha ha


Anything about the Vita doomed, Sinners doomed, or 3DS doomed usually does it as well here on this site.


nah, but Vita is doomed,..just kidding,...no but seriously,... :-S



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DaRev said:

Is it, really? Well, let's consider the Op shall we? I agree ENTIRELY with the Op, so I don't have to prove anything. Do you agree ENTIRELY with the Op? If not, prove why you don't.


No. Since you and the OP says God exist, then both you and the OP have to prove he exists.

When people believe things, they usually have good reasons behind it. The fact that your only justifucation for your beliefs is  "I can't be proven wrong" is a testament to the fact that you actually don't have any justification.



Jay520 said:
DaRev said:

Nope, truth is truth, there cannot be more than one truth, truth either agrees with truth or its not true or all the truth. You don't have to study every religion, pal, just study the true one. If you think the true one is, e.g. Islam, then go study that, which I'm sure if you did, WITH AN OPEN MIND you would run into some untruths. Christianity on the other is truth, study that WITH AN OPEN MIND, and I'm sure if you did you you will only find truth. Truth it is better to love your fellow man, truth!

Now, because Christianity is truth, there is no need study anything else, because you have already found the truth, so why look for it somewhere else? E.g if H2O = Water or E = mc2, why you going to look for that truth again, when you already found it?



Okay, a few questions.

1.) There are untrooths with Islam? How Do you know? Have you studied Islam to know if its true or not?

2.) If you have studied Islam, then what are the untrooths of Islam?

3.) I have studied Christianity with an open-mind and I think its false. Therefore, can I safely say Christianity is false?

4.) What if I study another religion with an open-mind and find that religion is true? How would I be able to know for sure?

Ok, thanks really for some straight forward questions. Because people in here seem happy to take religian and especially Christianity as a joke.

1) Yes, untruths about Islam I think. How, well, I haven studied it but if it does teach e.g., fundamentally, that its OK to take revenge on people then I think its full of untruth. Christianity on the other hand teaches that revenge is God's alone, and that you should always forgive.

2) See above. That whole revenge killing jihad western war thing, just doesn't sit well with me.

3) Nothing in Christianity is false, if not so, then quote from the BIBLE and lets see what you consider false. What in the Bible you find false?

4) Well, essentially God would tell you, because he loves you and wouldn't want you to make a wrong choice. Seriously. But you need to have an open mind to believe that.



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This thread is dumb. Debating dumb religions is a waste of time. Religions are stupid.



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ASStronaut said:
This thread is dumb. Debating dumb religions is a waste of time. Religions are stupid.

I agree, it seems to be what starts most wars anyway



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SecondWar said:
DaRev said:

Your point:

1) thats doesn't deny the FACT that there  is a devine father and he had rules in place long before you,...came of age.

2) correct, to an extent. Because god's teaching are both physical and spiritual at the same time. So some can be explained scientifically, like man being created from the Earth, but others like the existance of a Hell, well science might have some trouble sorting that out, for that, my friend, you'll need spiritual discernment.

You are living in a fairly tale right now, if you believe you can look to science for every answer you need, science, which contradicts itself every moment it 'discovers' something new. Oh, and in case you missed the point, Christians believe in science to, so we are complete. People like you on the other hand lack something, non-physical, and thus are incomplete.

Fact? Just because you believe something to be true doesn't make a fact. I think this clip sums up my point nicely (skip to past 20 seconds).

FACT, yes a FACT, i.e. can be proven. The Bible is, inter alia, a book of historical facts and eye witness accounts of God existing through Jesus. How do you prove somethng in court my friend, one way is with witness statements, and the Bible is full of them. So yes FACT! Conversely, do you know anyone that was there at the 'big bang' to give an accouunt that that is what really happened - or did scientists just pull it out of their butts?



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DaRev said:

Ok, thanks really for some straight forward questions. Because people in here seem happy to take religian and especially Christianity as a joke.

1) Yes, untruths about Islam I think. How, well, I haven studied it but if it does teach e.g., fundamentally, that its OK to take revenge on people then I think its full of untruth. Christianity on the other hand teaches that revenge is God's alone, and that you should always forgive. That whole revenge killing jihad western war thing, just doesn't sit well with me.

2) Nothing in Christianity is false, if not so, then quote from the BIBLE and lets see what you consider false. What in the Bible you find false?

3) Well, essentially God would tell you, because he loves you and wouldn't want you to make a wrong choice. Seriously. But you need to have an open mind to believe that.

1.) Using your logic, couldn't I just say Christianity is wrong because....well, the whole slavery thing. The whole slavery thing just doesn't sit well with me. Therefore, Christianity isn wrong.

2.) Sorry, I didn't mean false, perhaps immoralities is better. Here are some versus that condone slavery:

Exodus 21:1-4 "If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself." 

Deuteronomy 15:12-18 "And if thy brother, an Hebrew man, or an Hebrew woman, be sold unto thee, and serve thee six years; then in the seventh year thou shalt let him go free from thee.And when thou sendest him out free from thee, thou shalt not let him go away empty: Thou shalt furnish him liberally out of thy flock, and out of thy floor, and out of thy winepress: of that wherewith the Lord thy God hath blessed thee thou shalt give unto him."

Exodus 21:7 "And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do."

 

 

Also, the fact that if you don't believe in God, then you will be tortured for all of eternity. It doesn't matter if you're the most moral person in the world. It doesn't matter if you cured aids. It doesn't matter if you've saved thousands of children from hunger. It doesn't matter if you're an overall good person. If you don't believe in God, then you go to Hell. Not for a short period of time, but forever. That's not moral at all.

3.) I have an open-mind and I don't believe.



Reading this thread I fucking hate religious people and their stupidity and cockyness. They are retards. It's pointless trying to make a well constructed argument because their heads are full of molasses.



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Now it is a FACT that we have a part in our brain that is dedicated to give us religious visions etc. when stimulated.

I still like the idea best that we are so scared of death or illness etc. because of our self awareness that we needed to invent a part in our brain that tells us that there is something beyond the life of earth and that we don't need to worry aboubt the afterlife in any near future.
Now that makes a lot of sense because EVERY single culture has its gods or deities no matter where they live.

That gives us two few ideas:
- Either our brain is lying to us because of those reasons stated above (which I think is true)
- Or god doesn't give a fuck what religion you belong to or else he would've put Christianity or whatever in our brains instead of general religious feelings.