@NEM you are talking about accounts vs unique users and the article is 3 years and 7 months old. I don't know anybody who doesn't have at least 2 accounts. Heck, I have a PSN account and I don't even own a PS3, PSP or a Vita.
Imagine not having GamePass on your console...
Lafiel said:
uhum.. in my opinion it was very obvious the writer was joking even though I don't know that guy (and I'm not even a native english speaker) it can't hurt to be a bit more relaxed |
To be honest i didn't read the whole thing, i just read parts of it, that's why. i'm NOT a stressed out person like you would think
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That was really funny! :D
"Also, you have to wonder -- without ads, how is Sony paying to keep its service running? Drugs."
"Xbox Live stands for freedom, a strong work ethic, democracy, God, eagles, Obama, and justice. Meanwhile, PSN is not American, and as such does not stand for freedom or any of the other things I can't be bothered to type out again. Also, it's probably racist a little bit."
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Mr Puggsly said:
You didn't prove me wrong. This article simply says PS3 has a higher percentage of consoles connected to the web. It doesn't say more people are actually playing online games. Furthermore, this article is old as shit. I assume the PS3 userbase was about 20 million in 2009. More recent articles have PS3 percentages lower and 360 percentages higher. MS isn't robbing you. Live has been a pay service even before the 360 launched. If someone just wants to play multiplat games online like CoD, Battlefield, etc... I would suggest playing them on a PS3. But if you're one of the millions and millions of people that enjoy playing Halo, Gears, other 360 exclusive content, and perhaps the multiplat games then the modest Live fees are worth paying. PSN may be free, but it simply doesn't offer the games I personally enjoy playing. I rather pay Live fees than settle with crap I don't enjoy on PS3. The only thing that's is sad is you. Your life and wallet must be empty if subscriptions to Live Gold makes you sad. |
I kind of did, since you brought forward no proof of otherwise.
No, microsoft isnt robbing me cause i dont let them. 360 exclusive content is also a disgusting practice that i will not support. Basically, you're telling me you just like Halo and Gears and thats why you like Xbox live. I can understand liking the games, but i dont understand why you like paying for online gaming because of that.
I know you have trouble accepting this as you already chose to shove it in the back of your mind, but the server costs for online gaming are minimal and they will be shut down after a few years. At that point the game you bought at full price now only has half its functionality despite you having payed a monthly to play it on top of the box cost. The costs are in the box sales. The online play fee is taking advantage of you. But, as i say, some people dont care about beeing taken advatage of. Waste your money away all you want, i dont really care, but i will keep saying you're beeing taken advantage of, because you are.
@DirtyP2002 The fact that the article is older actually gives a more accurate picture because there were less accounts created by then. I'm extrapolating similar numbers to nowadays, but i really found no conclusive article. For the record though, i created 2 Xbox live accounts aswell. Both silver ofc.
Nem said:
I kind of did, since you brought forward no proof of otherwise. No, microsoft isnt robbing me cause i dont let them. 360 exclusive content is also a disgusting practice that i will not support. Basically, you're telling me you just like Halo and Gears and thats why you like Xbox live. I can understand liking the games, but i dont understand why you like paying for online gaming because of that. I know you have trouble accepting this as you already chose to shove it in the back of your mind, but the server costs for online gaming are minimal and they will be shut down after a few years. At that point the game you bought at full price now only has half its functionality despite you having payed a monthly to play it on top of the box cost. The costs are in the box sales. The online play fee is taking advantage of you. But, as i say, some people dont care about beeing taken advatage of. Waste your money away all you want, i dont really care, but i will keep saying you're beeing taken advantage of, because you are. @DirtyP2002 The fact that the article is older actually gives a more accurate picture because there were less accounts created by then. I'm extrapolating similar numbers to nowadays, but i really found no conclusive article. For the record though, i created 2 Xbox live accounts aswell. Both silver ofc. |
You didn't prove me wrong because your "proof" didn't prove anything. The PS3 always had wifi, the original 360 models did not. That is a big reason why more PS3 users are online. However, it doesn't prove a larger percentage of PS3 users actually care about online gaming.
Yes, I enjoy Halo and Gears and that's a big reason why I subscribe to Live. If people enjoy playing World of Warcraft, I wouldn't suggest they settle with DC Universe because its free. Its funny, you simply can't grasp that millions of people rather pay a fee to play games they enjoy instead settling with free stuff. You absolutely do care how people spend their money, that's why you're here pissing and moaning about Live.
So let me get this straight. According to you MS is taking advantage of me... because I pay them a small fee for services and games I enjoy that only they provide? Really think about what you're saying, its oozing of ignorance.
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Mr Puggsly said:
You didn't prove me wrong because your "proof" didn't prove anything. The PS3 always had wifi, the original 360 models did not. That is a big reason why more PS3 users are online. However, it doesn't prove a larger percentage of PS3 users actually care about online gaming. Yes, I enjoy Halo and Gears and that's a big reason why I subscribe to Live. If people enjoy playing World of Warcraft, I wouldn't suggest they settle with DC Universe because its free. Its funny, you simply can't grasp that millions of people rather pay a fee to play games they enjoy instead settling with free stuff. You absolutely do care how people spend their money, that's why you're here pissing and moaning about Live. So let me get this straight. According to you MS is taking advantage of me... because I pay them a small fee for services and games I enjoy that only they provide? Really think about what you're saying, its oozing of ignorance. |
that "small" fee shouldnt be there at all.
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
that "small" fee shouldnt be there at all. |
And it shouldn't be there because...?
Why should you have free access to an online infrastructure created and maintained by MS?
I hope you have better answers than, "I shouldn't have to pay for that!" or "I already pay for the internet!"
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| DirtyP2002 said: I played on steam, battle.net, PSN, Dreamarena and Xbox Live. Xbox Live is by FAR the best service on the market. |
Are you aware that Bnet has recieved some /slight/ updates since then? Or how about we only compare to Xbox 1's online.
To solve WC3 hacking just download iCCup and it's gone and also the standard of ladder play improves.
Soleron said:
To solve WC3 hacking just download iCCup and it's gone and also the standard of ladder play improves. |
Why should a user have to "solve" online mplay? Isn't that what the provider is there for? What you're suggesting is that you not only have to play the game but you have to concentrate on making sure you don't get cheated too.
That right there is EXACTLY why XBL exists. You log in, you play, you log off. You don't sit there slamming your head on a desk when somoene goes god and becomes bulletproof on bnet while taking everyone out.
Psyberius said:
That right there is EXACTLY why XBL exists. You log in, you play, you log off. You don't sit there slamming your head on a desk when somoene goes god and becomes bulletproof on bnet while taking everyone out. |
Because it's a 10 year old game and no one, especially not MS, supports a pay-once game for that long. You can still actually play WC3 unlike most Xbox 1 games. They did support WC3 with anti-hacking for a good six years.
In the games they currently support (WoW, Diablo, SC2) they are working very actively to stop cheaters and will do so for at least 3 years after their last expansion. Lack of support is not an accusation that can be levelled against Bnet, ever.
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