I'm going to have a laugh when sony introduces paid online gaming nextgen (sonyfans rageee)

+ insert sony fan comment that it'll never happen and I anounce bullshit :D

Even if online gaming on Xbox was free that doesn't mean everyone would suddenly start playing games online. Are more people playing games online on PS3 because its free? It appears the answer is no.

Funny when a Sony fan argues $60 is a wallet raping. If Sony wasn't trying to rape wallets the PS3 and Vita would have had successful launches.

There are many of us that can afford to have Live Gold and new games. Fortunately you do have options. If you don't like what MS does, Sony will gladly take any money you'll give them. Nobody is forcing Xbox on you, so quit worrying about it.

If online gaming becomes a pay service on Sony platforms, the fans will simply argue why its a better service than Live.

Although, I doubt it'll become a pay service on PS4. Sony is reeling right now. PS3 was a massive disaster and allowed Xbox to thrive. Vita is doing horrible and I can't see that changing without a significant price cut. This is no time to introduce fees for online gaming. But its clear they would like to that given how successful Live is.

#1 was funny ill admit

Friends list obviously. A lot of people have that aspect to consider.

And then xbox 360 has had it's fair share of online exclusives like gears of war, halo, etc. If someone bought an xbox 360 he would pretty much need to get gold to play all those games.

I am not sure how PSN comes into the argument though. Not a single other platform charges for online gameplay.

Again, halo, gears of war, left 4 dead, all of them kind of exclusive and even without L4D, that's two popular online games we are talking about that PS3 doesn't have.

Consumers just pay for it because they have no other choice if they want to play halo with their friends. And ultimately it's not like super expensive, is it?

It's just that it doesn't automatically make XBL the best service and doesn't prove that people enjoy paying for it.

For eg if I wanted to play halo 4 mp, I would need to get Gold. Depending upon how much I feel like playing it, I will probably get the Gold account even if it costs $50 or whatever after finding it for cheap. There really is no other way.

Computer purist meaning someone who thinks his computer is going to do it all or even NECESSARY to do it all.  I used to be the same way as you are until I opened up my mind to see how much I was constricting my choices.  Netflix on the xbox is a MASSIVE success because it's simple, takes advantage of existing hardware and doesn't require plugging a pc into whatever tv you have in the house.  The point?  The apps on XBL rock for many many many people.

Now that I have an xbox at every tv(5), a kickass media center with 8 tb of movies/music and netfix, i'm no longer wandering around my house with a laptop to plug into a tv in order to watch or listen to something.  Perhaps you only have 1 tv and a small house but between streaming to xboxes and having a ps3/wii set up in my games room, I really find less and less time needing a pc at all other than to download more movies and music to stream to the xboxes.  Best of all, my gf, myself and my 2 kids can all be watching or doing something different and it doesn't involve someone wasting time screwing around with a keyboard.

See, I don't even know what you're talking about again.  Are you mixing up conversations?  A small house?  Where did you even get that from?  Perhaps 3 bedrooms is small, but damn if I care, it's bought and paid for.  Why are you making up things about someone else's life, anyway?  It's creepy, and it gives me a headache trying to understand why you would do it in the first place.

You want five xbox 360s?  Go ahead, knock yourself out.  Good for you.  It has nothing to do with me, though, you know?  You have billions of movies?  Awesome.  Me, I've got three computers in three different rooms, one of which is always hooked up to a television.  The other television is hooked up to a set-top box which I rarely use.  Why the hell we're sharing this information, though, I have no idea.  I also have 2 cars, 3 house plants, and a picture of Audrey Hepburn.

 If you think hooking a PC up to a TV is some kind of major, difficult undertaking, then I don't know what to tell you.  Stick with using consoles, that's fine with me.  All I'm saying is that I PERSONALLY prefer using a computer to using consoles or set-top boxes when it comes to the internet.  I PERSONALLY find it faster and more convenient.  Do you see, now?  That's what I like, and I have every bit as much right to like that as you do with all your gaming consoles.  Computer purist?  OK, if you want to call it that.  Wouldn't that make you a console purist, then?

My entire point was that the value of all the apps and extras that come on a console is relative.  I don't need them and wouldn't care if they vanished tomorrow.  I buy gaming consoles to play games on.   "It has better and more apps," to me, is a meaningless criteria, and assuming absolute value is foolish.  What is "best" depends on the person using it.

I never thought I would have to explain this so carefully when I first wrote it.  It seemed like a pretty obvious position.  Live and learn, I suppose.

I prove you wrong aswell: http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4418.html

85% Of PS3 Owners Online, Compared To 60% Of 360 Owners

That article gives xbox 10% more than the other one, but still nowhere near the numbers the PSN pulls.

You cant really call me a Sony fanboy but more of a microsoft hater if you want to be accurate. I hate when someone is constantly trying to rob me, its only natural i develop some dislike to that entity. And to be honest... i'd rather console raping at the start than over the years. You, have most certainly paid more for your system + online gaming by now than many PS3 gamers payed for the console and online gaming.

This is somewhat amusing cause you seem to enjoy and not care that you're wallet is rapped. Its very funny and well... sad i suppose.

You didn't prove me wrong. This article simply says PS3 has a higher percentage of consoles connected to the web. It doesn't say more people are actually playing online games.

Furthermore, this article is old as shit. I assume the PS3 userbase was about 20 million in 2009. More recent articles have PS3 percentages lower and 360 percentages higher.

MS isn't robbing you. Live has been a pay service even before the 360 launched.

If someone just wants to play multiplat games online like CoD, Battlefield, etc... I would suggest playing them on a PS3. But if you're one of the millions and millions of people that enjoy playing Halo, Gears, other 360 exclusive content, and perhaps the multiplat games then the modest Live fees are worth paying.

PSN may be free, but it simply doesn't offer the games I personally enjoy playing. I rather pay Live fees than settle with crap I don't enjoy on PS3. The only thing that's is sad is you. Your life and wallet must be empty if subscriptions to Live Gold makes you sad.

uhum.. in my opinion it was very obvious the writer was joking even though I don't know that guy (and I'm not even a native english speaker)

it can't hurt to be a bit more relaxed