Every developer that states the WiiU (that can run AC3 in 1080p compared to the current gen 720p and that has new architecture that allows for unseen effects on consoles) is on par or MAYBE better is a troll.

Its like saying 3ds is on par maybe better than PSP even tho the 3ds can handle effects etc the PS2 Wii Xbox1 or PSP cant handle. Its just bullshit. Sure the 3ds has the lower resolution here but the WiiU has the higher resolution so its even less likely to be on par or MAYBE better.

If their game looks nothing different than on other consoles its their own fault noone elses.

@bold. What signs though? Heresay from devs who barely have a grasp over the hardware? This is the second time in two days. This here, and before it was the guy who used to work at vigil Xander Davis. These people don't know yet and we can't base their judgements on the signs.

As far as we know, just from a spec point of view, the WiiU is much more capable than the 360. The PS3 is more difficult to judge because of its complexity, but regardless the 360 and PS3 games were, for 99% of the cases, highly comparable.

So, the WiiU, as far as we know, is 3x more capable than both the 360 and PS3. So what are the signs you're reading or looking at. At year 0, the WiiU is already capable of PS3 graphics. That means that in years 1 to 7, it will be leaps beyond the 360 and PS3.

Those are the signs.

Is "Ediot" a new term or something? xD

Anyhow, I really am just happy Nintendo is testing the waters. They jumped on HD, they are (again!) trying something new with their controller, and they are using a new Online Community Thing!

I, personally, am happy with what they are doing. You Sony Fans and PC Fans might think that the graphics suck/just look a "little" better than PS3 but, really that's good enough.

LOL.

No he dooesnt go into details.

Firstly he disregards more than 50 websites facts about Xbox and GC figures.

2ndly he disregards every websites and articles opinions that Xbox is clearly more powerful.

3rdly he stated Xbox polygon count had no game above 12,000. When Dead Or Alive 3 contains 10,000 per character not including scenery at all. Thats 20k onscreen without scenery. 

4thly he states the game known as Rebel X which was rumoured to be Rogue Squadron 1-3 in late 2013 to release for late 2014 was canned because Xbox couldnt handle it. Funny how IGN were frothing at the bit to see what improvemebts the Xbox version would have. Notice how IGN knew the Xbox was more powerful.

http://uk.xbox.ign.com/articles/454/454215p1.html

" Really says a lot about you pezus... though nothing any of us didn't already know."

that pretty much seems like attacking to me...

I refuse! Also, your avatar has better graphics than mine.

Anyway; all logic would dictate that a HD console launched six years + after the other two HD consoles would easily, at the very least, be on par with or slightly better than said consoles. Arguing over this is senseless in my opinion.

There's another reason why its senseless; Nintendo fans (allegedly) don't care about graphics, the PS360 crowd will have machines that kill the WiiU shortly and the PC crowd always wins these bouts anyway!

But, by all means, carry on.

1. "devs commenting on it" is ambiguous. What devs, and if the ones I was referring to (who have not much knowledge on the hardware), did I not mention that in my retort? How do you address my concerns? By "FF" Do you mean luminous? UE4 looks amazing, but what tells you the WiiU would not be able to support it? You do realize that no official backing from Epic does not mean the WiiU can't support it right? I haven't seen Watch_Dogs, I'd like a link to a vid if you have one.

2. I'll ask Archbrix to jump in here. He is the one I'm basing my info from, and I'm not sure they are just rumors, more like very educated guesses.

3. I got the 3X from Archbrix. Of course the games don't show it, that's the point of saying year 0 games are on par with PS3. That means that the system has untapped potential. So "the games surely don't show it" is moot. Wii was capable of Xbox graphics out of the gate, and was a leap over the Xbox. If you don't realize that, you probably forgot. Not as big a leap as the PS360, but still a leap. The WiiU looks to be an even bigger leap, reducing the gap between it and the PS360's successors, as compared to the Wii and its contemporaries. I'm just saying we son't see the same again. The jump from WiiU as compared to PS360 will be greater than the Wii's jump before it, and the jump from the successors of the PS360 to the PS360 all signs point to them being less significant jumps than last time around, in essence making the WiiU to PS4ango smaller. I'd draw you a picture but I know you're smart enough to understand what is an educated guess.

We are on a site meant to predict business trends, and this far it's clear enough that the PS4ango will and cannot make the same jump the PS360 did over the prior gen.

I guess the, "graphical power" of WiiU will be somewhere between, "weaker than PS3 and XBOX 360" to, "far more powerful than PS3 XBOX 360" which is... confusing.

I am buying one no matter what.

That's not an attack.  :)

And NintendoPie already called him out on what we know about him earlier in the thread.  I like that you want to defend your buddy and all, but that's pretty weak.

If you feel that strongly about it, just report it! 

Why can't nintendo just release the detailed specifications?

It was never the question on whether or not it was equal to current consoles, of course it will be PS/360 use 6+ year old hardware.